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Curious
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Aug 27 2009, 1:45am


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It's always simpler to forget this translation conceit and recognize that Tolkien is, in fact, the author, and that we are, in fact, his readers.

Subject User Time
Valaquenta II: Of the Valar (1) N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 19 2009, 9:23pm
    Thoughts. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 19 2009, 9:56pm
    Meet the pantheon FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 20 2009, 11:48am
        I like your answers. And to elaborate, Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 20 2009, 12:15pm
        About the Moon... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 20 2009, 1:22pm
        Sexless Valar? Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 20 2009, 5:11pm
            I see what you mean FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 20 2009, 6:43pm
                Melian lusted Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 20 2009, 7:16pm
                    Yes, or at least FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 20 2009, 8:51pm
                The Ainur are inherently gendered. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 20 2009, 7:34pm
                    You're right. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 20 2009, 9:16pm
                        Call it 'caring' a la Carol Gilligan sador Send a private message to sador Aug 20 2009, 9:28pm
                            Did I say 'downgrading'? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 21 2009, 10:30am
                                Running with the Deer Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 21 2009, 3:13pm
                                    Yes, running through the woods FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 21 2009, 4:07pm
                                        I've found individual chapters online. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 21 2009, 4:11pm
                                            Thanks for the heads up FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 21 2009, 4:22pm
                        Yes, it's strange. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 20 2009, 9:37pm
                            Well...... fairelvenlady Send a private message to fairelvenlady Aug 20 2009, 10:49pm
                                Yes, it would be better to live under the Valar than the Olympians. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 20 2009, 11:26pm
                                    The Valar, to Me Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 22 2009, 11:13pm
                                        Answered like a philosopher and lawyer! N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 23 2009, 2:26am
                                            I yam what I yam! Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 23 2009, 2:49am
                                        Men of reason - vs. the Greeks and the Vikings squire Send a private message to squire Aug 23 2009, 2:39am
                                        Exactly what I was thinking.// fairelvenlady Send a private message to fairelvenlady Aug 23 2009, 2:55am
                                            Addenum fairelvenlady Send a private message to fairelvenlady Aug 23 2009, 3:05am
            It was more explicit in the earlier versions Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 20 2009, 11:35pm
                Reference Please JTM Send a private message to JTM Aug 21 2009, 7:55am
                    Children of the Valar Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 21 2009, 4:38pm
                        Children JTM Send a private message to JTM Aug 21 2009, 8:08pm
                        Gotta remember this... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 22 2009, 12:01am
                            Interesting, but obviously Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 22 2009, 7:28am
                                If by "impossible" FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 22 2009, 11:45am
                                    That's not what I mean. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 22 2009, 5:07pm
                                        So what exactly *do* you mean? FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 22 2009, 7:54pm
                                            It's similar to oaths. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 22 2009, 8:11pm
                                                What does the expression "took her to wife" mean/imply? Pryderi Send a private message to Pryderi Aug 22 2009, 10:37pm
                                                    “Bright Eärendil was then lord … and he took to wife Elwing the fair” // N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 22 2009, 10:46pm
                                                        Blown out of the water again! Pryderi Send a private message to Pryderi Aug 22 2009, 11:27pm
                                                It's not "impossible" FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2009, 8:29am
                                                    So is there a fertility god/goddess Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2009, 1:14pm
                                                        Not if this is mythology FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2009, 1:52pm
                                                            Exactly. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 23 2009, 11:13pm
                                                                Infertility is endemic in Gondor squire Send a private message to squire Aug 23 2009, 11:47pm
                                                                    That's quite a stretch Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 24 2009, 12:00am
                                                                        I didn't mean to imply absolute infertility squire Send a private message to squire Aug 24 2009, 2:07am
                                                                            I still think it is a stretch that any of those quotes implies that infertility is rampant in Gondor // Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 24 2009, 2:24am
                                                                                What it indicates to me... Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 24 2009, 2:43am
                                                                                    Exactly what I think, as well // Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 24 2009, 2:44am
                                                                            I agree with you on this one. Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 8:52pm
                                                                That's not what I meant FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2009, 9:54am
                                                                    That's one interpretation. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2009, 11:51am
                                                                        Not lying. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2009, 1:46pm
                                                                            And insisting that the sun revolved around the earth Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2009, 1:51pm
                                                                                Yes, it's exactly like that. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2009, 2:16pm
                                                                                    As you note, Tolkien did not say Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2009, 2:23pm
                                                                                        It can't be explained by science FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2009, 2:42pm
                                                                                            Okay, but can we at least Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2009, 2:58pm
                                                                                                I think you're right. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2009, 3:55pm
                                                                                                    Hmm. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 24 2009, 4:26pm
                                                                                                        I'm not trying to convince you. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 24 2009, 9:30pm
                                                                                                            It was interesting how the writers manipulated the conclusions squire Send a private message to squire Aug 24 2009, 9:50pm
                                                                                                    If this were true... Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 11:35pm
                                                        Vana? // Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 8:49pm
                                                Specifics Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 8:36pm
                                                    Even if we play along with Tolkien's Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 26 2009, 9:15pm
                                                        How would the translator know that? // Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 11:43pm
                                                            You're right. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 27 2009, 1:45am
                                                    RED book! Sorry// Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 11:41pm
                                        Nudity Prohibition Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 26 2009, 8:24pm
                                    Rivendell sador Send a private message to sador Aug 23 2009, 5:19am
                                        Well yes. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2009, 9:00am
                                            Just for the record sador Send a private message to sador Aug 23 2009, 9:08am
                                                Thanks for those FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 23 2009, 11:53am
                Did the earlier versions FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Aug 21 2009, 9:33am
                    Ilúvatar All-father Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 21 2009, 4:46pm
    My thoughts Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 20 2009, 5:05pm
        Too bad about Obama, then. Curious Send a private message to Curious Aug 20 2009, 6:10pm
            I didn't say dumb versus smart. Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Aug 20 2009, 6:48pm
    On Aule Ashkan1984 Send a private message to Ashkan1984 Aug 20 2009, 7:14pm
    Answers sador Send a private message to sador Aug 20 2009, 9:20pm
        Good point on #1 Menelwyn Send a private message to Menelwyn Aug 21 2009, 6:31pm
    short on answers; long on questions... batik Send a private message to batik Aug 21 2009, 4:27am
    A few thoughts Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Aug 22 2009, 12:55am
        "she came to the aid of Manwë; for Melkor she knew from before... and rejected him" N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Aug 22 2009, 9:12pm
    A couple of answers Menelwyn Send a private message to Menelwyn Aug 23 2009, 12:04am

 
 
 

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