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***FOTR EE APPENDICES DISCUSSION: Design Galleries – The Realms of Middle-Earth*** (part 2)

Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jun 29 2009, 10:26am

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We are going to be going to The Shire! My husband’s favorite place.

To find the Design Galleries, put in Disk 3 of FOTR EE. Choose Designing and Building Middle-Earth, then Design Galleries, The Realms of Middle-Earth.

When you choose the realm you want to look at, you will see a page of explanation. If you choose Slideshow, it will step automatically through your choice. There is audio commentary with some of the choices which are marked with a "wax" seal. If you want to spend more time looking at the images, you can choose to step through the pages of images one at a time.

I am not really going to be asking questions in these discussions. If you have a comment you would like to make, or a question that might make things clearer for you, please post it.



Here is a wonderful little picture by John Howe of Bucklebury Ferry. This picture is in The Art of The Fellowship of the Ring, also. I have found it nice to be able to pick out the pictures I like and then to look in the book and be able to study them at length.



Here is a picture of the interior of the Green Dragon also by John Howe.



This drawing of Gandalf’s fireworks is also by John Howe. Evidently I like his drawings, because I didn’t know who did them until I started researching them. Next to the drawing is a photo of some of the fireworks in two scales.



Since there are fireworks, there must be a party nearby and I have found the food. Was the food real at the party in the movie? Can you imagine getting to be in the party scene and getting to eat this wonderful looking food?



Here is a photo of the inside of one of the houses in The Shire. Does anyone know which house it is? It must be on location because there was never any mention of a set of anything but Bag End in the studio.



Here is a painting of someone who looks like Frodo walking through The Shire. I think it looks so much like the part of Ohio I live in (except for the mountains!). I would love to see the original of this Paul Lasaine painting.

Tomorrow we get to look at the designs for Bag End!

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weaver
Half-elven

Jun 29 2009, 1:53pm

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I always liked the area around Mohican State Park, and Malabar Farm. The painting you included reminds me of that region.

Ohio is one of those states with a little bit of a lot of different types of terrain. If Jackson had been a Buckeye, he could probably have found all of the outdoor locations he needed for the films in Ohio as well...

I've never seen that hobbit-house interior before -- looks rather upper crust to me. Either that, or they were expecting company....

And that food does look great -- and real!

Weaver





Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jun 29 2009, 2:25pm

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Ohio is one of those states with a little bit of a lot of different types of terrain. If Jackson had been a Buckeye, he could probably have found all of the outdoor locations he needed for the films in Ohio as well...


Well, I know where you could find the Shire, I guess a strip mine would do wonderfully for Mordor and perhaps a latter Isengard, but we don't have any volcanos and don't know about Bree or Ithilian. I guess you could put up a Minas Tirith in the flat western part of Ohio with LOTS of computer graphic help -- no mountains, just the foothills of the Applachians.

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weaver
Half-elven

Jun 29 2009, 2:34pm

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well, we could always set the Cuyahoga River on fire again... [In reply to] Can't Post

That's almost better than a volcano -- the quest could have been to throw the Ring in the River of Doom...

And now that you have me thinking...

Mt. Adams in Cincinnati would make a great Minas Tirith setting...

There are some very magical places in the Granville area that were always my "Ithilien"...and there were two old stagecoach inns in that town that would make for a good Prancing Pony, plus nearby Roscoe Village would be a great Bree....

Maybe we should start lobbying now to have the remake in 20 years be made in Ohio!

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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jun 29 2009, 2:41pm

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have you? It has changed. All the wonderful little shops are trendy boutiques. The Inn and restaurant are now a technical college. It is all very ordinary. It's a shame; it used to be one of our favorite places to go. It's only about 30 miles away from us.

I've never been to Cincinnati -- I don't think the airport in Kentucky counts!

Actually, I haven't been to a lot of places in Ohio. Just what I need to go through to get somewhere else. West on I70 to go to points west and west on U.S. 30 to go to Fort Wayne, Indiana.

I know much more about California -- that my home state. Now they have some nifty volcanoes. I love Mt. Shasta.

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weaver
Half-elven

Jun 29 2009, 3:38pm

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R. Village was quite extraordinary when I lived in those parts.

I live in NY now -- everything is much bigger and farther apart. I miss my cozy Ohio sometimes...

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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jun 29 2009, 7:37pm

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Elven
Valinor


Jul 1 2009, 8:42pm

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The Buckleberry Ferry ... [In reply to] Can't Post

changed in the set, as here in the drawing the ferry would have pulled up alongside the wharf - which would not have been so dramatic when the Hobbits had to run and launch the ferry away from the shore with the ferry being shunted to the wharf inline - though I can see that JH's wharf is more practical when you're not being chased by Black Riders Wink

I wonder if that is the interior of Mr Proudfoots home - he seemed a bit of a house proud Hobbit.

The food - Im thinking some might be real (for eating purposes) and the majority is fake - there seemed to be more dancing and beer drinking than eating - maybe the food were props like the flaming styrofoam birthday cake. Cool

I bet there were some comments about the firecrackers Shocked Blush Smile - sorry couldn't resist saying that Laugh

and the painting! WoW! Its beautiful isn't it!

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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jul 2 2009, 12:46am

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I would have like to think of . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

the food all being real. Can you imagine working in that scene, getting to eat all the food you can stuff inside yourself?

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N.E. Brigand
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Jul 2 2009, 4:02am

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In Ohio, as in Tolkien's Shire, you can't see any mountains. [In reply to] Can't Post

It ought to be true in Jackson's Shire too, given that the map shown early in the film.

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N.E. Brigand
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Jul 2 2009, 4:02am

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Alcarcalime
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Jul 2 2009, 10:56am

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I certainly thought so, [In reply to] Can't Post

but perhaps if you live in New Zealand, you can't imagine a scene without mountains.

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squire
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Jul 2 2009, 2:07pm

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Compression is given somewhere as one of the things script adaptations of books have to do. By putting the mountains on the horizon of the Shire, the movie-makers are literalizing Bilbo's and Frodo's wanderlust.


I didn't like it when I saw it, but I understand why they did it.

I'm glad they used the Middle-earth map as little as they did, since they had to violate it several times for similar reasons of pace and exposition.



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weaver
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Jul 2 2009, 2:44pm

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grammaboodawg
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Jul 3 2009, 1:37am

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*twitching* *Design Galleries!!!* *REALMS OF MIDDLE-EARTH!* Ahhhhhhhhh....

I can't help it. I love every little stitch of the Shire. Those sketches, and the food! I'll bet designing the Shire was so much fun! And I'm delighted that after all their years of bringing Middle-earth to life... Howe and Lee HAD to feel like they were in heaven to go from sketch to reality. So Much Fun!



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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jul 3 2009, 10:11am

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I felt that Alan Lee and John Howe really enjoyed sitting at the Hobbiton site sketching away! Bringing something like the Shire to life has to have been a wonderful experience.

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Peredhil lover
Valinor

Jul 4 2009, 8:46pm

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My second favourite after Imladris Smile

That drawing of Bucklebury Ferry looks so much brighter and friendlier than what we got to see in the movie, with the Ringwraith pursuing the Hobbits!

It's weird to think that they made even the fireworks in two scales!

Hmmm ... all that food makes me hungry again. It looks mostly quite real and would be a veritable feast. But - when they had to film a few takes of each scene, I suspect the decoration would have been reduced quite a bit between takes if all that food was real Wink

And the last picture looks so idyllic ... it makes me want to explore the landscape myself.

I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.

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Alcarcalime
Tol Eressea


Jul 5 2009, 7:40am

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And the last picture looks so idyllic ... it makes me want to explore the landscape myself.


Wouldn't it be ideal to be able to just step into that painting and walk through that landscape?

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