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The best I could come up with

Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Mar 15 2009, 9:15pm


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The best I could come up with [In reply to] Can't Post

is this map from Johann Jakob Scheuchzer's 1723 Ouresiphoites Helveticus, sive Itinera Alpina per Helvetiae alpinas regiones facta annis (1702-1711) volumes:

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I know, Switzerland again. =)

(This post was edited by Eowyn of Penns Woods on Mar 15 2009, 9:16pm)

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The Tale of Years (Appendix B): Part I – The 2nd Age, 1 -1600 Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Feb 23 2009, 6:42am
    My thoughts Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 23 2009, 5:04pm
        Drawing the line squire Send a private message to squire Feb 23 2009, 10:34pm
            Suddenly *I'm* the one looking for errors? Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 24 2009, 3:48pm
                I have no desire to be creamed like the Spanish, or anyone else. squire Send a private message to squire Feb 25 2009, 12:24am
                    Mordor Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 25 2009, 12:42am
                    Excellent points! Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 25 2009, 12:47am
        real world boxy mountains hanne Send a private message to hanne Feb 24 2009, 4:17pm
            I'm always a bit surprised Aunt Dora Baggins Send a private message to Aunt Dora Baggins Feb 25 2009, 5:36pm
            The best I could come up with Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Mar 15 2009, 9:15pm
    "...any historical value it may possess must always be of secondary importance." Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Feb 23 2009, 6:24pm
    ANOTHR Wiped Out Post! Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 23 2009, 7:51pm
    Thoughts. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 23 2009, 10:42pm
        Hey, darken down! Stop having fun! Take this more seriously! squire Send a private message to squire Feb 23 2009, 11:01pm
            Perhaps I am sensitive about the Reading Room's Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 1:49am
        In addition... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Feb 24 2009, 1:32am
            Was Annatar pretending to be an elf? Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 6:32am
                What 'Miscellaneous Spirits'? Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 24 2009, 2:05pm
                    It's just a theory. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 3:24pm
                        Never Heard That Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 24 2009, 8:01pm
                            Check Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 25 2009, 7:53am
                                Door Number Three Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 25 2009, 2:07pm
                        This is one of the most inexplicable editing decisions in the published Silmarillion Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 24 2009, 8:05pm
                            Wouldn't It Be Great Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 24 2009, 8:37pm
                            Very interesting!// Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 9:51pm
            Not so implausible to me Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 24 2009, 4:02pm
                Hmmmm.... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Feb 25 2009, 2:06am
                    Difficult Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 25 2009, 4:04am
                        Tolkien was powerfully conflicted squire Send a private message to squire Feb 25 2009, 4:32am
                            Ah, but... Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 25 2009, 3:13pm
                                Nonetheless.... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Feb 25 2009, 3:53pm
                                    Still seems plausible to me... Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 25 2009, 4:20pm
                                    Why Not? Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 25 2009, 5:02pm
        Some Thoughts About Some of Your Thoughts Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 24 2009, 4:34am
            The broader legendarium is a first class mess. Not the work of a niggling and perfectionist writer. squire Send a private message to squire Feb 24 2009, 5:34am
            I am not "looking at the broader Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 6:25am
        I don't get it. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 24 2009, 8:51am
            Tolkien in his later years was not the literary equivalent of a dog chasing his tail Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 24 2009, 2:27pm
                Morgoth's Ring is my favorite book in the HoME series, Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 25 2009, 2:38pm
                    Actually, he never comtemplated eliminating the Two Trees Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 25 2009, 3:32pm
                        Perhaps the HoME stories you love Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 25 2009, 6:18pm
                            Quite true Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 25 2009, 6:30pm
                            ?????? Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 26 2009, 12:54am
                                We discussed this recently. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 2:04am
                                    Oh Boy.... Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 26 2009, 4:15am
                                    Enough.... Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 26 2009, 4:28am
                            Isn't calling an early 20th century English author "classist"... squire Send a private message to squire Feb 26 2009, 1:13am
                                Well, the emphasis of Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 1:56am
                Where would I find each of these stories? Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 25 2009, 6:29pm
                    "The Wanderings of Húrin" is in HoMe XI. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 25 2009, 7:56pm
                        Thanks! I'm not Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 25 2009, 8:16pm
                        Among other unique features, that story has a *hero lawyer* and a trial scene! FYI // squire Send a private message to squire Feb 25 2009, 10:34pm
                    Sorry for the delay Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 25 2009, 11:06pm
            I should stop talking about serious / not serious. And I didn't say "mere." Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 3:02pm
                "Mere" was probably my addition, I agree. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 24 2009, 3:36pm
                    Letter #160, as Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 24 2009, 6:49pm
                        Oh, *that* game... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 26 2009, 10:20am
                            Not that real history works that way squire Send a private message to squire Feb 26 2009, 11:24am
                                Agreed. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 26 2009, 12:00pm
                            And that's why I have bigger issues with you Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 12:23pm
                                Not at all. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 26 2009, 1:05pm
                                    I have a bias Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 5:10pm
                                        Well I'm glad... FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 26 2009, 6:18pm
                                            What, exactly, have you noticed? Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 7:40pm
                                                That's difficult to answer. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 26 2009, 10:33pm
                                                    In the films, do we really witness those events? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 26 2009, 10:38pm
                                                        We witness them FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 1 2009, 6:26pm
                                                    Yes, the book is hobbitcentric. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 11:26pm
                                                        Sounds good to me. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 1 2009, 7:05pm
                                                            Gandalf, Gimli and Legolas, the hosts of Mordor. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 1 2009, 7:31pm
                                                                Myth of idealized heroes Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 12:30am
                                                                    They may have foibles, but have any of them Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 3:29pm
                                                                        Sin is relative Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 3:52pm
                                                                            Hmm. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 4:54pm
                                                                                Are we on the same page? Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 5:33pm
                                                                                    How do we know N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 2 2009, 5:42pm
                                                                                        Different intention Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 6:18pm
                                                                                            Who wants "better than average"? Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 6:39pm
                                                                                                Matter of degree and opportunity Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 3 2009, 4:23am
                                                                                                    He also has divine and elven blood. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 11:23am
                                                                                                        I think it's a bit more complicated. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 3 2009, 12:34pm
                                                                                                            Semi-divine, Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 4:18pm
                                                                                                                Well, at least the female ancestors knew. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 3 2009, 5:36pm
                                                                                                                    Dirhael is male.// Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 5:45pm
                                                                                                                        I know. Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Mar 3 2009, 6:09pm
                                                                                                                            I see your point. Although Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 6:56pm
                                                                                                                I can't see anything FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 3 2009, 5:42pm
                                                                                                                    Is Gandalf human, then, by your definition? Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 5:50pm
                                                                                                                        Yes. // FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 3 2009, 6:15pm
                                                                                                                            That explains alot. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 7:00pm
                                                                                                        Philosopher-King Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 4 2009, 2:04am
                                                                                            Faith in Christ, and the ennoblement of the noble squire Send a private message to squire Mar 2 2009, 7:26pm
                                                                                                Very interesting point! Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 11:03pm
                                                                                                Normalcy Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 3 2009, 4:34am
                                                                                                    Heroes may inspire us, but Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 11:32am
                                                                                                Spiderman comes across as human too. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 5:43pm
                                                                                                    Nice point about the Ring FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 3 2009, 5:49pm
                                                                                                        Except Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 5:54pm
                                                                                                            Agreed. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 3 2009, 6:23pm
                                                                                                                I don't think so. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 6:48pm
                                                                                                    Aragorn as Elessar does not receive the Power of the Ring squire Send a private message to squire Mar 3 2009, 5:51pm
                                                                                                        That line can be fuzzy. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 6:02pm
                                                                                                            Well, he is a King, for gods' sake. squire Send a private message to squire Mar 3 2009, 7:12pm
                                                                                                                No, not sinister at all. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 3 2009, 7:31pm
                                                                                                            Police Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 4 2009, 2:19am
                                                                                                                Where is the inquest Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 4 2009, 2:23am
                                                                                                                    Something subtler Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 4 2009, 2:28am
                                                                                                                        I find your point more persuasive than squire's. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 4 2009, 2:13pm
                                                                                                                            Thank you! Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 4 2009, 3:52pm
                                                                                                                                Is the Guard a police force? Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 4 2009, 6:05pm
                                                                                                                                    I concede both points... Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 5 2009, 4:32am
                                                                                                                    So what? squire Send a private message to squire Mar 4 2009, 3:10am
                                                                                                                        Sure I can imagine it. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 4 2009, 11:14am
                                                                                                                            That explains a lot. squire Send a private message to squire Mar 4 2009, 11:40am
                                                                                                        Good points--important distinction! // Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 4 2009, 2:10am
                                                                                    I won't repeat Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 6:04pm
                                                                                        Agreed. Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 6:21pm
                                                                                            Yep, there's a bright line between them.// Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 6:32pm
                                                                        My edits vanished Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 4:02pm
                                                                            Oops--they didn't disappear! Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Mar 2 2009, 4:04pm
                                                                            Tolkien's characters *are* believable within Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 5:16pm
                                                            Think of hobbits as a lens, not as authors squire Send a private message to squire Mar 1 2009, 7:40pm
                                                                That works for me. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 2 2009, 5:28pm
                                                                    FYI: "mythology for England" isn't Tolkien's phrase. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 2 2009, 5:46pm
                                                                    I take back the "gag" remark squire Send a private message to squire Mar 2 2009, 6:54pm
                                                                        Fair enough. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 2 2009, 7:13pm
                                                                        I tend to agree with the 'hobbit-lens' rather than 'hobbit-author' distinction you make sador Send a private message to sador Mar 2 2009, 7:28pm
                                                            I discussed most of these points Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 2 2009, 12:16am
                                What's the big deal? Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 26 2009, 2:01pm
                                    I don't have any problem with your approach. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 5:24pm
                                        Dog Chasing the Tail Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 26 2009, 10:45pm
                                            Can we not take this subject any further? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 26 2009, 11:05pm
                                                Agreed. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 11:09pm
                                                I agree totaslly Tolkien Forever Send a private message to Tolkien Forever Feb 26 2009, 11:14pm
                                            No, I hate Tolkien. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 11:07pm
                                Enchantment and Disillusionment Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 26 2009, 5:16pm
                                    I like finding a middle ground. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 5:37pm
                                        Thank you for a gentlemanly response... Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 26 2009, 5:56pm
                                            It's possible. Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 6:21pm
                                                It's not unpublished. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Feb 26 2009, 6:33pm
                                                    Written before LOTR was published. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 26 2009, 6:45pm
                                                        You are quite correct Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 26 2009, 9:13pm
                                                            I don't think Tolkien lived in his own fantasy land all the time. squire Send a private message to squire Feb 26 2009, 10:08pm
                                                                You mistake my meaning Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 26 2009, 10:27pm
                                                                    I get you now squire Send a private message to squire Feb 26 2009, 11:35pm
                                                                        I agree with both you and Curious about the narrator of LOTR Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Feb 26 2009, 11:42pm
                                                                            I'll have to disagree... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Feb 27 2009, 2:00am
                                                                                Who saw and reported on the "most tragic moment" in LOTR? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 27 2009, 2:11am
                                                                                    Very true... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Feb 27 2009, 2:39am
                                                                                        Hmm. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 27 2009, 2:55am
                                                                                            Not quite that. FarFromHome Send a private message to FarFromHome Mar 1 2009, 4:33pm
                                                                                                Do you really think Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Mar 1 2009, 4:49pm
                                                                                                    Well, it's certainly arguable squire Send a private message to squire Mar 1 2009, 5:05pm
                                                                                                    Sure. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Mar 1 2009, 5:09pm
                                                                                Focusing on the hobbits protagonists is not the same Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 27 2009, 8:13am
                                                                                    In the Prologue, Merry is considered to be a bit of an author sador Send a private message to sador Feb 27 2009, 8:29am
                                                                And I would argue Curious Send a private message to Curious Feb 26 2009, 10:57pm
                                    What if your premise is wrong? N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 26 2009, 6:18pm
                                        Yes Dreamdeer Send a private message to Dreamdeer Feb 27 2009, 4:27am
                                            Harder and more elusive. N.E. Brigand Send a private message to N.E. Brigand Feb 27 2009, 5:02am
    Now it was my turn! sador Send a private message to sador Feb 24 2009, 1:43pm

 
 
 

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