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A little-known Tom Bombadil poem?
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a.s.
Valinor


Feb 22 2007, 7:01pm

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GUNGA TOM!!! [In reply to] Can't Post


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(Frodo, Samwise, Tookish Peregrin and Merry),



No, THAT was hilarious!! I really admire that particular line up there, the way you got it in your parody was inspired!

What a way you have with a parody! We'll have a parody challenge one of these days, just you wait...

OK, I feel a stanza coming on myself:

I shan't forgit the night
When Old Willow held me tight
With a snap just where my leggings meet my bum.
I was chokin' mad with thirst,
An' the man that spied me first
Was our good old grinnin', singin' Gunga Tom.



a.s. Sly

"an seileachan"

The Lost Mod Power: An Elegy (with apologies to Wordsworth)

What though the mod power which was once so bright
Be now FOREVER taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendor in the stats, of glory in the power,
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind.


Elanor
Bree

Feb 22 2007, 10:44pm

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How quick you are... [In reply to] Can't Post

I was most of the day tickling the ideas round in my mind, and you came up with something in the space of about fifteen minutes.

*Feels inadequate*

A parody challenge sometime sounds fun, though.

"Frodo thought for a moment. 'Well, Sam, what about elanor, the sun-star, you remember the little golden flower in the grass of Lothlorien?'"


a.s.
Valinor


Feb 23 2007, 3:00am

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girl, I only had to change a few words!! [In reply to] Can't Post


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I was most of the day tickling the ideas round in my mind, and you came up with something in the space of about fifteen minutes.

*Feels inadequate*

A parody challenge sometime sounds fun, though.



I never would have thought of Gunga Din to parody, that was a stroke of genius! So of course it only took me 15 minutes, you did all the work. I just changed a few words here and there in one stanza!

Smile

a.s.

"an seileachan"

The Lost Mod Power: An Elegy (with apologies to Wordsworth)

What though the mod power which was once so bright
Be now FOREVER taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendor in the stats, of glory in the power,
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind.


dernwyn
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Feb 23 2007, 3:59am

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*applause* You two are marvelous! [In reply to] Can't Post

Excellent rhymes!

But there's also the, uh, alternate Tom:

Toke-a-lid! Smoke-a-lid! Pop the mescalino!
Stash the hash! Gonna crash! Make mine methedrino!
Hop a hill! Pop a pill! For Old Tim Benzedrino!


I can never figure out whether the BotR writers liked Tom B., or not...


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Aerin
Grey Havens


Feb 23 2007, 5:31am

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*bookmarks* / [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Elanor
Bree

Feb 23 2007, 9:57am

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Stoned Tom... [In reply to] Can't Post


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Excellent rhymes!

But there's also the, uh, alternate Tom:

Toke-a-lid! Smoke-a-lid! Pop the mescalino!
Stash the hash! Gonna crash! Make mine methedrino!
Hop a hill! Pop a pill! For Old Tim Benzedrino!


I can never figure out whether the BotR writers liked Tom B., or not...



That's a good one!

Watching the extended DVDs, I was delighted to see how well the writers knew the books and I'm sure they liked him. I was able to accept quite readily his exclusion from the film because he doesn't further the plot at all, and his complete immunity to the ring robs it of all power, which rather takes the point out of Frodo's quest when you're dealing with it cinematographically and haven't got time to address the issue properly. But they did give a few of his lines to Treebeard in The Two Towers, as a nod of acknowledgement.

Thanks to everyone who has posted encouragement and praise; it's certainly helping to make this newbie feel at home!

"Frodo thought for a moment. 'Well, Sam, what about elanor, the sun-star, you remember the little golden flower in the grass of Lothlorien?'"


dernwyn
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Feb 23 2007, 1:31pm

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LOL! [In reply to] Can't Post

Heh, no, no, that's from BotR, that is, Bored of the Rings - the Harvard Lampoon parody of LotR!

I see you are unfamiliar with that classic tome. squire and I have been making random posts on that book - the last one was his about the Foreword, so it looks like it's time to do the Prologue...this is a warning! Sly


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Elanor
Bree

Feb 23 2007, 3:14pm

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*Blushes* [In reply to] Can't Post

Ok... I didn't know that. Sorry... I'm new...

*slinks off*

"Frodo thought for a moment. 'Well, Sam, what about elanor, the sun-star, you remember the little golden flower in the grass of Lothlorien?'"

(This post was edited by Elanor on Feb 23 2007, 3:15pm)


Nob of the Pony
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Feb 23 2007, 3:16pm

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.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Tom Bombadil = the Ned Flanders of Middle Earth.


Wynnie
Rohan


Feb 23 2007, 3:47pm

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Nice nick [In reply to] Can't Post

-- one I don't recall seeing before. Welcome to TORn!


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dernwyn
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Feb 23 2007, 4:27pm

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No, no, come back! [In reply to] Can't Post

And have a seat - there's plenty of squishy chairs around here (despite squire's concern about the remodelling). (I think someone even brought in bean bags.)

Don't worry, I think most folks around here haven't read BotR (and some, rightfully so, have no desire to)!

So since there are a few of us who tend to quote from that book, we've been making very random posts to, ah, "familiarize" it to anyone willing to take a look. It's an excellent parody, but admittedly not everyone's cup of tea!


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Alraune
The Shire

Feb 23 2007, 4:34pm

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dernwyn beat me to it, but [In reply to] Can't Post

really, it can be seen as a badge of honor not to know BotR! ("not everyone's cup of tea indeed!" she mutters sniffily. Wonders if that's a word.)

and he found more contentment in those days than in any others of his life, though he did not know it until he looked back long after when old age was upon him. -Tale of Aldarion and Erendis




Elanor
Bree

Feb 23 2007, 5:20pm

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It's ok... [In reply to] Can't Post

You won't get rid of me that easily!

*Pins "I have not read Bored of the Rings" badge of honour to chest*

"Frodo thought for a moment. 'Well, Sam, what about elanor, the sun-star, you remember the little golden flower in the grass of Lothlorien?'"


dernwyn
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Feb 23 2007, 9:03pm

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Sniffily! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd actually bought the book back when I was a teen - around '69 or '70 - and it was a full year before I could get myself to read beyond the first page.

Ah, beware, ye who are unsullied - 'tis tarnished me for life!

(But also, amazingly, given me a greater respect for LotR proper. Although at times I'll find myself thinking things like, "If he says 'lo' once more, I'll croak him myself".)


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dernwyn
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Feb 23 2007, 9:16pm

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I understand completely. [In reply to] Can't Post

*rubs hands together maliciously, cackles with glee* Evil


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Alraune
The Shire

Feb 24 2007, 8:05am

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Yes, beware! [In reply to] Can't Post

A fellow Tolkien lover gave me a copy back then Ė I probably donít need to add that I was a very serious teen. I read it straight through, appalled and outraged on every page. But I must confess that you and Squire have given me a certain new appreciation for it. All the same: sacrilege!

and he found more contentment in those days than in any others of his life, though he did not know it until he looked back long after when old age was upon him. -Tale of Aldarion and Erendis




dernwyn
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Feb 24 2007, 6:36pm

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Sacrilege - *gasp!* [In reply to] Can't Post

I keep wondering if Tolkien had ever heard of the book, or even read any of it, and what he thought of it...

Maybe we're giving people a "depreciation" of it! Laugh


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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Jan 4 2008, 3:33am

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"This may have been discussed on TORn before" [In reply to] Can't Post

And so it was, by NZ Strider in 2003, shortly before you (or I) joined the boards.

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squire
Valinor


Jan 4 2008, 4:29am

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The Gods have big brown feet of clay [In reply to] Can't Post

Nice detective work!

With all due respect to NZS, Altaira, Kimi, and Curious, that was not an inspired discussion. The more recent one shines by comparison (whether in moonlight, I can't say).

I would like to say it is a stupid poem, but when I read about Lady-smock, and think of how lintips might relate to the mewlips, I back off.

I wonder if it was meant to be set to music? I sometimes see poetry that doesn't read right, but when taken as lyrics and given a melody, it is quite inspired.



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dernwyn
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Jan 4 2008, 1:25pm

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Tom is a god? [In reply to] Can't Post

Shocked

(And considering that the recent discussion included BotR, then I'd say it definitely had the influence of "moonshine" in it! Wink)


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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Oct 4 2013, 3:49pm

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Douglas Anderson commented on the poem lately. [In reply to] Can't Post

Relatively lately, that is: more than two months ago on his "Tolkien and Fantasy" blog. Here is a link to that post. As noted in one of the comments that follows, Kris Swank has an article about the poem in the 2010 volume of Tolkien Studies.

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Oct 4 2013, 7:25pm

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Correction [In reply to] Can't Post

Kris Swank has an article about the poem in the 2013 volume of Tolkien Studies.

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