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Please Tell Me Jackson won't add Aragorn into The Hobbit
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MouthofSauron
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Oct 8 2008, 4:24am

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Hi! This is basically my first post, though I've been lurking for a while. Mind if I join in your conversation? I remember Aragorn being referenced in The Hobbit when I read it again about 2 years ago. But it was a minor role, to be sure, though it was interesting to me that he was around in the Hobbit considering what a major role Tolkien had him play in the later stories. I like the idea of seeing him with the Rangers. The story of the Rangers is an interesting one. His early history with Arwen is interesting, but so much of the depth of that relationship was fleshed out in the other movies that I'm not sure putting in more of the background would add anything qualitative.

Nice to meet you!

I agree that Aragorn should be in F2 and his story should be fleshed out (Dunedain/Rangers/Arwen) but not in The Hobbit because I want them to stick to the book and not add anything to it which would be an injustice unless its minor tweaks with regards to the ring/cutting a scene or two out for timing/pacing reasons.




Laerasa
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Oct 8 2008, 4:30am

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simplyaven
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Oct 8 2008, 4:39am

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Now I'm confused... seriosuly confused. I just re-read the Hobbit and I can't remember Aragorn mentioned for all the gold in the world. It's true I'm tired but... wow, I must be getting old Unsure Could you remind me where and how he was mentioned? Thanks and have fun, it's great here!

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N.E. Brigand
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Oct 8 2008, 5:34am

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Tolkien didn't even create Aragorn until after The Hobbit had been published. And in Aragorn's earliest incarnations, in the drafts of The Lord of the Rings that have since appeared in "The History of Middle-earth" series, the character was a hobbit name Trotter who wore wooden shoes.

If Aragorn were to appear in The Hobbit, he would be all of ten years old.

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MouthofSauron
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Oct 8 2008, 8:08am

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I strongly feel Aragorn should not be in The Hobbit, Aragorn is awesome no doubt but I think it would be an injustice to the character and the book.




fuzzyfeet
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Oct 8 2008, 2:09pm

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Thanks for your welcome! Now I am scratching my head wondering why I think Aragorn was in The Hobbit. It was a while ago that I read it...(maybe I'm getting old). I thought there was some reference by Gandalf to his presence, without Aragorn actually making an appearance. I could be remembering something from the Fellowship. I do hope that the Hobbit storyline is stuck to as religiously as possible. In the three movies, Jackson and Walsh had an interpretation of Aragorn and Frodo that to me really contributed to my understanding of the stories, and I know there were so many characters in the books that they must have felt the need to simplify some things. But The Hobbit is simple enough in characters and plot that hopefully there aren't too many cuts. Even though I seem to have forgotten whether Aragorn actually appears..The Hobbit is actually my favorite of the books, maybe because of its relative simplicity. It was a completely delightful read. I felt like a kid again going on some great adventure, like I did when I read it as a kid, and not many books I read as an adult bring that experience back for me. The first chapter had me rolling on the floor reading it as an adult--I hope they are able to capture the humor in Gandalf tricking Bilbo into hosting these dwarves and then compelling him to go on this adventure. (I'm remembering that correctly, right?)


simplyaven
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Oct 8 2008, 3:54pm

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Oct 8 2008, 7:12pm

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simplyaven
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Oct 9 2008, 2:59am

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I calculate it as twenty-six or seven. Aragorn was 87 in LOTR, there is a 60-year gap between TH and LOTR, and TH lasts for a year. How did you come up with the 10 year old Aragorn?

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Kelvarhin
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Oct 9 2008, 3:08am

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Aragorn is born on 1st March 2931, The Hobbit takes place in 2941. What's glossed over in the movies is the time period between Bilbos party and Frodo leaving the shire, Bilbo leaves in 3001, Frodo in 3018 which makes Aragorn 87 during LOTR.


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simplyaven
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Oct 9 2008, 3:13am

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