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Mr. Willow

Daughter of Nienna
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Apr 4 2007, 12:31am


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2. Do you (like me) wish you knew the scale of the original drawing? Why would he – as it seems here – be drawing in a size larger than would fit in a published novel?

A: With the Orthanc image, it seems very small to me. I thought I remember reading somewhere that many of his drawings were done on small pieces of paper. I have not read the discussion yet, (answering blind) to get through this quickly.


3. This drawing was made on “the blank verso of a leaf of examination script in 1942”. Does it change how you think of the drawing?

A: This seems to be a common thing for him…didn't he do something similar with his most famous words that started it all: "In a hole in the ground there lived a Hobbit." I think many artists of any media often use what ever is handy to jot down a thought whether written or visual. There are similar stories for other artists as well…like notes on restaurant napkins and such.


4. How does his use of his materials here compare with those in Orthanc (I)?

I think he used an ink wash to color in the brick.


5. How does Tolkien’s choice of where to apply which material show us something about his subject?

The ink wash on the brick gives this a very different affect. Almost like soot on the brick. Which seems to fit both the proximity to Mt Doom and the theme of evil industrialism (by ow black everything seemed to get in the height of that period of time.


6. Why might Tolkien have pushed the inkwell away for this one, if he did? How does he use the materials he does have at hand to show some level of menace?

The hard crisp line of ink suits buildings better than the organic shapes of a tree and nature. The Willow's menace shows (to me) in how the roots seems to be fluid, easy movable. The branches are kinked and bent that subtly suggests a menacing manner. Like they just might swing out and knock an unsuspecting hobbit into the water.


7. And now, it's time for a High School Essay Question:
Compare and contrast Tolkien’s Old Man Willow with the same artist’s illustrations of trees for The Hobbit.

Mr. Willow is large and fat, dominating the area, and is also shaped more organically with curvy lies, rounded knots winding roots and low bet branches…his other trees are like straight narrow stick comparatively.

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JRRT Author & Illustrator, ch. 5: LOTR: Pencil & Ink Luthien Rising Send a private message to Luthien Rising Mar 20 2007, 2:16am
    Uh-oh... Sandicomm Send a private message to Sandicomm Mar 20 2007, 3:27am
        ack! Luthien Rising Send a private message to Luthien Rising Mar 20 2007, 3:39am
    *with visible illustrations* Luthien Rising Send a private message to Luthien Rising Mar 20 2007, 3:55am
        pen, ink, pencil a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 20 2007, 11:02am
            Brick seems a strange choice to me. GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Mar 20 2007, 12:44pm
    Quick, late-night comments... NZ Strider Send a private message to NZ Strider Mar 20 2007, 9:34am
        where do you see the face? a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 20 2007, 10:36am
            I see a crooked nose drogo Send a private message to drogo Mar 20 2007, 11:18am
                Oh, yes, I see that! GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Mar 20 2007, 12:40pm
                Once again... Eowyn of Penns Woods Send a private message to Eowyn of Penns Woods Mar 23 2007, 5:02pm
            I can't draw lines on an image... NZ Strider Send a private message to NZ Strider Mar 20 2007, 6:29pm
                If I can, you can a.s. Send a private message to a.s. Mar 21 2007, 12:36am
    Foundations of Barad-dur drogo Send a private message to drogo Mar 20 2007, 11:10am
        Not only that, but... GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Mar 20 2007, 12:42pm
        Pars pro toto? NZ Strider Send a private message to NZ Strider Mar 20 2007, 6:36pm
            I think that was it drogo Send a private message to drogo Mar 21 2007, 2:02am
    I'll discuss Old Man Willow first. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 20 2007, 3:32pm
        I always thought Tolkien did draw Treebeard, only earlier squire Send a private message to squire Mar 20 2007, 5:40pm
            No hands, feet, or beard, though. And Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 20 2007, 7:51pm
    Barad-dur and Orthanc. Curious Send a private message to Curious Mar 21 2007, 11:15am
    Salix morgothensis Beren IV Send a private message to Beren IV Mar 22 2007, 4:32am
    Scattered thoughts Finding Frodo Send a private message to Finding Frodo Mar 24 2007, 2:46am
        Vogon architecture is of course the third worst in the universe. / GaladrielTX Send a private message to GaladrielTX Mar 24 2007, 2:55am
    Tolkien's so-so architectural sense squire Send a private message to squire Mar 26 2007, 3:02am
    Mr. Willow Daughter of Nienna Send a private message to Daughter of Nienna Apr 4 2007, 12:31am

 
 
 

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