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Adar recast + 7 more actors
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Junesong
Rohan


Dec 1 2022, 4:33pm

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Adar recast + 7 more actors Can't Post

Season 2 casting is shaping up!

Interesting news coming out of Variety today including the re-casting of Adar. Not sure what to make of this. Excited to see what's next.

"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
"Thank you. And so it goes with God."


OldestDaughter
Rohan


Dec 1 2022, 5:25pm

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I'm excited!! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm hoping that the fair haired lady will be Celebrian. She looks alot like Galadriel and is so pretty!

I'm bummed about Adar, he was a cool villain and Joseph Mawle is a good actor and was great as Adar!

But so far, I'm looking forward to more news concerning this over the next two years!




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


Ataahua
Forum Admin


Dec 1 2022, 6:15pm

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Aw man, [In reply to] Can't Post

Jason Mawle became my favourite part of ROP - his acting was captivating. Why on earth replace him?

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo

My LOTR fan-fiction


Junesong
Rohan


Dec 1 2022, 6:31pm

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My guess [In reply to] Can't Post

It sounds like his character is going to die early on - probably in the first episode. I doubt they're recasting a major role. Who knows though.

"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
"Thank you. And so it goes with God."


OldestDaughter
Rohan


Dec 1 2022, 6:41pm

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Sauron may kill him? [In reply to] Can't Post

Since there was alot of bad blood referenced when Halbrand/Sauron had pinned down after the chase between Galadriel, Adar and Sauron.

But it still seems a shame to kill him off already. Especially with how important it seemed to build up the tainted side to the Southlands when Waldreg and the other men joined Adar. And it seemed that Adar's storyline was a little different direction of the Sauron storyline even though they made you think they were the same thing in the beginning. At least that's what I thought they were leading up to.




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 1 2022, 6:59pm

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Casting Guesses [In reply to] Can't Post



GABRIEL AKUWUDIKE
I'm guessing Anárion, if only because none of the other new cast members here fit the part.



YASEN ‘ZATES’ ATOUR
Yasen Atour might be a Southron from Far Harad, perhaps one of the Men chosen to become a Nazgûl.



BEN DANIELS
Ben could be the show's Celeborn (assuming Galadriel's husband is introduced in Season 2). Another guess: One of the future Nazgûl, maybe a Númenórean lord.



SAM HAZELDINE
This one we know. Sam is replacing Joseph Mawle in the role of Adar. I'm sure he'll be fine though Joseph Mawle will be missed!



AMELIA KENWORTHY
I'm almost certain that Amelia will play Celebrían.



NIA TOWLE
Not a clue here. Maybe a Númenórean girl?



NICHOLAS WOODESON
I'm guessing that Nicholas will be Círdan the Shipwright, Lord of the Grey Havens, who we know is alleged to enter the show in the new season.

“Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved.” - Tony Isabella


Lissuin
Valinor


Dec 1 2022, 8:29pm

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Noooooooo! Joseph Mawle was great in the role. [In reply to] Can't Post

Other than a line I remember from one of the films, "The orcs were elves once...", the character of Adar is the first in film to suggest and explain why we should feel more than knee-jerk fear and disgust at the existence of orcs. They were callously created and callously sent by their masters to slaughter and be slaughtered. The nudge toward some sympathy for them felt uncomfortable at first, but Mawle convinced me. He was one I was definitely looking forward to seeing again.
Oh, phooey. Unimpressed

But you go, Mr. Hazeldine! Don't pay any attention to us "fans". (A gentle reminder to myself about giving the new guys a chance: Patrick Stewart and his crew of the Enterprise. Wink )


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Junesong
Rohan


Dec 1 2022, 9:20pm

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Any fans of SANDMAN? [In reply to] Can't Post

If you haven't already, check out Neil Gaiman's SANDMAN on Netflix - Hazeldine plays a small role in a short arc midway through the season but its terrifying and he's great.

"So which story do you prefer?"
"The one with the tiger. That's the better story."
"Thank you. And so it goes with God."


Lissuin
Valinor


Dec 1 2022, 10:18pm

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Thanks for the tip, Junesong. [In reply to] Can't Post

I watched and liked the first episode some time ago so will persevere.


DGHCaretaker
Lorien

Dec 1 2022, 10:31pm

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Recast/Reboot [In reply to] Can't Post

Agreed on Nicholas Woodeson. He looks like a great fit for Círdan, who I think is described as so ancient, he actually shows a bit of age.

As for the rest, they should recast and soft reboot the entire show along with the showrunners and writers, especially Elrond, Celebrimbor, and Galadriel in that order..


Eruonen
Half-elven


Dec 3 2022, 6:19am

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Another site indicated from sources that he was difficult to work with due to his [In reply to] Can't Post

very, very method acting style that caused issues.


DGHCaretaker
Lorien

Dec 3 2022, 9:09am

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Orcish [In reply to] Can't Post


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he was difficult to work with due to his very, very method acting style that caused issues.


Sounds perfect for the role of an orc lover to me.

Imagine that, "Hollywood" can't deal with method actors? Oh my.


Ataahua
Forum Admin


Dec 3 2022, 9:30am

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Well, whatever his method, it worked for him. [In reply to] Can't Post

The results were outstanding.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo

My LOTR fan-fiction


Eruonen
Half-elven


Dec 4 2022, 7:51pm

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He nailed the performance, however, we do not know the full story. [In reply to] Can't Post

If there is tension or a volatile person or disruptive cast member it can hurt the overall effort. Some productions find ways for such actors to work by isolating them but sometimes the cast and crew give up trying to work with them.

Disappointed to see him leave.

He is in good company: https://www.imdb.com/list/ls076950010/
Actors Who Are Difficult To Work With


MerlinEngine
Bree


Dec 6 2022, 6:58am

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(How) do we know he was let go because of his behaviour/method? [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry for bumping in in medias res. Asking since I find it interesting that we should be privy to such level of transparency compared to some other crew members who may or may not have been let go.


DGHCaretaker
Lorien

Dec 6 2022, 7:38am

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How [In reply to] Can't Post


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How do we know he was let go because of his behaviour/method?


Because it was posted in this thread that "another site indicated from sources" without actually citing the source that got their info "from [other] sources."

Once it's in print, it's a fact. Your job is to now pass it on to ten more sites. "The internet is always right."


Eruonen
Half-elven


Dec 6 2022, 2:56pm

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We don't - and anyone can discount it as well. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


mcnpauls
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Dec 6 2022, 9:36pm

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Losing Mawle is awful for the show [In reply to] Can't Post

Not only did he out-act pretty much everyone else on the show and create a genuinely interesting character, but this sets a very worrying precedent: a respected and experienced character actor leaving the most expensive show in history is not a good sign.

This show is in trouble - it did not have a strong cast before and I do not think this will make top class performers rush to join it, I fear.


Ataahua
Forum Admin


Dec 6 2022, 11:45pm

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Not much of a precedent, really. [In reply to] Can't Post

After all, Jackson 'let go' Stuart Townsend (original Aragorn) and Rob Kazincky (Fili) from his movies. At least Mawle got the chance to be seen on screen.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo

My LOTR fan-fiction


Eruonen
Half-elven


Dec 7 2022, 1:19am

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Did Rob leave due to some undisclosed personal reason? [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't recall him actually being replaced for cause but rather some issue came up.

Looks like he had Pacific Rim the year after 2013 and Red Tails the same year (2012)
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2059117/


(This post was edited by Eruonen on Dec 7 2022, 1:22am)


Ataahua
Forum Admin


Dec 7 2022, 1:48am

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From memory, [In reply to] Can't Post

and we are going back a few years, it had the same vibe of the Townsend shift: an official non-judgemental reason followed by underground commentary speculating on the 'real' reason. (Although Townsend made comments afterward that indicated he felt hard-done by Jackson, whereas Kazinsky didn't said a word.)

In the end, no-one other than PJ and the actors truly know why they were replaced.

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


Fantasy novel - The Arcanist's Tattoo

My LOTR fan-fiction


Yva
Rivendell


Dec 7 2022, 5:55pm

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Nah [In reply to] Can't Post

Nah, the show is just fine. Stuff like this happens and productions deal with it. They weren't afraid to kill one of their biggest names, Lenny Henry. And it's possible Adar wasn't going to last beyond season 2 anyway.

The cast of RoP is solid with no weak link and a few standout performances by Mawle or Arthur (and two or three more). Once Clark is able to show more range as her character evolves, I trust she will be great.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 8 2022, 9:25pm

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The NEW, New Cast Members [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm surprised no one is yet discussing the additional eight (8) cast members that were announced yesterday (December 7).


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CULVER CITY, California—December 7, 2022—The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power, which has been viewed by over 100 million people worldwide and has been an unprecedented global success as the top Original series for Prime Video in every region in its first season, has announced an additional eight new recurring cast members for the forthcoming second season, currently in production in the UK.

The new cast members are Oliver Alvin-Wilson, Stuart Bowman, Gavi Singh Chera, William Chubb, Kevin Eldon, Will Keen, Selina Lo, and Calam Lynch.


“Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved.” - Tony Isabella

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Dec 8 2022, 9:27pm)


DGHCaretaker
Lorien

Dec 9 2022, 2:09am

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New Cast [In reply to] Can't Post

Pace yourself. We have two years. ;)

I did comment above, saying they should reboot the entire thing and recast the showrunners. Maybe they will after the awards season.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 9 2022, 4:58am

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New Thread? [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps the latest announcement deserves its own thread.

“Hell hath no fury like that of the uninvolved.” - Tony Isabella

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