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squire
Half-elven
Nov 26 2022, 1:52am
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Like you, I am most surprised that he deliberately omitted several episodes from History of Middle-earth that distinctly relate to Tolkien's thoughts about the roles of law and lawyers in his Middle-earth.
You did not comment on it, but it seemed to me that the final section about Tolkien's real-life interactions with the legal system were, say, irrelevant to a book that is titled Law, Government, and Society in J.R.R. Tolkien’s Works. If it was relevant, in your opinion, I would have liked to have learned how and why.
Finally, for all the thoroughness of Miranda Boto's book and its sources, and your play-by-play review or coverage of his many approaches, I remained at a loss at the end of the article. How is this book's subject the best way to approach, in Shippey's generous words, "the core of Tolkien’s thought and his philosophy”? That is, what is Miranda Boto's actual thesis or point about how Tolkien depicts legal structures and processes in his legendarium? And why is that thesis possibly the best way of understanding Tolkien's worldview?
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Nov 26 2022, 3:41pm
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I'm sorry that my review did not successfully convey why I agreed with Shippey's view of the book (though to be fair, what I actually said was that he was "not far from the mark"). Perhaps at some point you will get a chance to read the book and see whether you agree!
As for the appendix, while I agree that the topic of Tolkien's real life interactions with the legal world are not directly relevant to the topic of the book, I still found it interesting and illuminating.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
The Hall of Fire
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Asger
Rivendell
Nov 27 2022, 8:14am
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I bought the book as a gift for my brother, who is a lawyer (retired) and I of course read it first. I agree with you that the texts from HoME a sorely missed, but even as a layman i enjoyed the book.
I’m looking forward to my brothers comments…
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Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor
Nov 27 2022, 2:25pm
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Both my review, and the book itself. I'll be curious to hear what your brother thinks about the book.
'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'
The Hall of Fire
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Felagund
Rohan
Nov 30 2022, 12:10am
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many thanks for posting your review :) //
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