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Prepare yourself: ***SPOILERS AHEAD***

Narvi
Lorien

Aug 18, 6:58pm

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The following is what we've gleaned from attendees of the Mexico City premier:

-First Age material is contained in an epic 5-minute flashback sequence. Bliss prior to the darkening of the Trees is illustrated with elf-children. The Darkening itself is illustrated with Melkor in shadow-form. Finrod is confirmed as the elf climbing the hilltop to observe the vista. The War of Wrath is confirmed. Sauron is present on the battlefield in armored Dark Lord form reminiscent of the PJ films. Balrogs and eagles face off. Death of Finrod.
-First episodes feature Galadriel's expedition north, return to Lindon, voyage west, encounter with a Worm (sea-serpent). Numenor does not appear.
-Elrond and Durin IV feature heavily. Armayo's acting is singled out as particularly good. Elrond and Durin have a close relationship.
-Hobbits and Meteor Man appear. This storyline was less compelling to the viewer.
-In the Southlands, Theo and Bronwyn are attacked by an orc in their kitchen. Theo acts in a suspicious manner.

Also, a significant amount of the footage that we have seen in the trailers and sneak-peeks is from the first two episodes.

There have surely been further spoilers leaked, but this is all I can remember. Folks should feel free to add to this list if they'd like.


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Narvi
Lorien

Aug 18, 7:23pm

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Earendil and Elwing feature in a painting during one of Elrond and Galadriel's conversations in Lindon.


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Otaku-sempai
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Aug 18, 7:37pm

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I do wonder whether Finrod's death is portrayed cononically?

#FidelityToTolkien
#ChallengeExpectations


VoronwŽ_the_Faithful
Valinor

Aug 18, 9:10pm

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I do wonder whether Finrod's death is portrayed cononically?


... it is portrayed as being part of the War of Wrath, as the spoilers that Narvi reports seem to suggest.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


Arannir
Valinor


Aug 18, 9:23pm

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... it is only told with two or three sentences, not directly contradicting the canon story but not telling it either. There are alleged quotes from that part of the episode that seem to give Finrod a much more active role than the fulfillment of his oath, however. Questions regarding this weren't further answered on the Discord, I think.
However, there seem to be different accounts to when Finrod's death happened in the series.



"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien

We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



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Narvi
Lorien

Aug 18, 9:33pm

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It may be left ambiguous as to how he dies, but Sauronís presence on the battlefield makes me think he will be responsible, as in the Silmarillion.


Arannir
Valinor


Aug 18, 9:40pm

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Oh yes, Sauron is clearly named as the person responsible. That they confirmed.

It is apparently also mentioned that he did not die on the battlefield.

But apparently it is only mentioned that Finrod went looking for Sauron but Sauron found him first or something like this. There wasn't any further clarification in the spoilers. But it doesn't seem like Beren or the oath are mentioned.



"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien

We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



Stranger Wings
Rivendell


Aug 18, 11:38pm

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I do wonder whether Finrod's death is portrayed cononically?


... it is portrayed as being part of the War of Wrath, as the spoilers that Narvi reports seem to suggest.


Said that Finrod dies as he did in the bookÖ

Also, the oath scene seems to be part of a montage while Galadriel says they had to leave Valinor after the darkening of the trees. And so itís heavily implied that itís the Oath, but itís not specified. As itís essentially irrelevant to the setup narrative Galadriel is telling.

ďHe went alone to look in Mirrormere.Ē - The Book of Mazarbul


Arannir
Valinor


Aug 19, 7:45am

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I do wonder whether Finrod's death is portrayed cononically?


... it is portrayed as being part of the War of Wrath, as the spoilers that Narvi reports seem to suggest.


Said that Finrod dies as he did in the bookÖ

Also, the oath scene seems to be part of a montage while Galadriel says they had to leave Valinor after the darkening of the trees. And so itís heavily implied that itís the Oath, but itís not specified. As itís essentially irrelevant to the setup narrative Galadriel is telling.



It was later specified that they mainly talk about it and it is not specified how he does. And Beren is certainly not mentioned. The imagery, however, allows people who know the lore to fill in the blanks. (We already saw his body in a trailer which implies werewolves as well, though, they are not mentioned in the prologue).



"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien

We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



Arannir
Valinor


Aug 19, 10:32am

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There was some clarification.

His actual death basically doesn't contradict his canon death..the events leading up to it are very different though as it happens after Morgoth's fall while trying to hunt down Sauron.



"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at." J.R.R. Tolkien

We all have our hearts and minds one way or another invested in these books and movies. So we all mind and should show the necessary respect.



jlj93byu
Rivendell


Aug 19, 2:05pm

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-First Age material is contained in an epic 5-minute flashback sequence. Bliss prior to the darkening of the Trees is illustrated with elf-children. The Darkening itself is illustrated with Melkor in shadow-form. Finrod is confirmed as the elf climbing the hilltop to observe the vista. The War of Wrath is confirmed. Sauron is present on the battlefield in armored Dark Lord form reminiscent of the PJ films. Balrogs and eagles face off. Death of Finrod.


This would seem confirmed by the soundtrack. Track number 9, titled "In the Beginning," is very likely the music from that prologue, and it's nearly 8 minutes long. It also contains Galadriel's theme, Sauron's theme, and other epic music which, after listening to it, all but confirms it's the music from the prologue.


Narvi
Lorien

Aug 19, 5:12pm

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There is some speculation now that the prologue will not be the only flashback we see of FA. The balrogs are *not* shown in the former, but rather in a "sneak peek" that played after episode 2 at the premier. The FA-related tracks, when taken together, are also much longer than the 5 mins of screen time suggested by the source.

 
 

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