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"Threes Thursday": 25 November - A Short Cut to Mushrooms

noWizardme
Half-elven


Thu, 8:52am

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"Threes Thursday": 25 November - A Short Cut to Mushrooms Can't Post

This week our chapter is LOTR Book I Ch4, A Short Cut to Mushrooms.

Tell me, if you wish, what threes you find in that chapter. You can do that in any way you like including:
  • A sort of scavenger hunt into the text to find a three of something
  • Using the idea of threes to comment on the chapter in some way (e.g. write about three things you like; three plot points; three characters...)
  • On occasion we might find places where the number three or a pattern of three seems likely to have been put there deliberately by Tolkien for inspiration, symbolism, use of a writing technique etc. (Or, sometimes, where such inspiration or symbolism might not be deliberate on the part of the author, but is something a reader can find and enjoy).
Contributions can be long or short, learned or simple, and from anyone.

And really this 'threes' idea is only there to encourage people to look at the chapter and join in a discussion about it. So if the 'threes' thing is a barrier to join the discussion, just feel free to post about the chapter without having to shoehorn some threes in.

I have a vague plan to carry on through LOTR like this week by week, provided the response makes it seem worthwhile. But we'll see.

So over to you - what do you want to say about
LOTR Book I Ch4, A Short Cut to Mushrooms?

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My profile picture is "Kaninchen und Ente" ("Rabbit and Duck") from the 23 October 1892 issue of Fliegende Blätter (see https://en.wikipedia.org/...2%80%93duck_illusion )


noWizardme
Half-elven


Thu, 9:09am

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About next week (2nd December)... [In reply to] Can't Post

Next week, I'm unlikely to be able to start Threes Thursday on time (that is, Thursday 2nd December). I was wondering whether anyone would be willing to do it for me?

All you would have to do would be to copy and paste the starter post text from this week, and change the name of the chapter to "LOTR Book I Ch5, A Conspiracy Unmasked"
And that IS all. This is not our old "read through" format , and so there is no expectation that someone is 'leading' the chapter by preparing some initial thoughts and questions about the chapter, or acting as MC for the week (keeping a conversation going if possible by responding politely to posts if nobody else does that first).

Of course anyone can do those things if they want, but it's not part of deputizing for me next Thursday.

I think this format is more like an 'open mike night' than a performance by a pre-booked elite- someone needs to turn the stage lights on and puts out the chairs, and it's helpful if that's organised in advance. But the entertainment is whoever decides to turn up and do something, and the mutual support of people 'having a go'.




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My profile picture is "Kaninchen und Ente" ("Rabbit and Duck") from the 23 October 1892 issue of Fliegende Blätter (see https://en.wikipedia.org/...2%80%93duck_illusion )


noWizardme
Half-elven


Thu, 11:38am

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Wait: better plan - no chapter next week [In reply to] Can't Post

 I've decided that I'll post the invitation to find threes in Ch 5:'Conspiracy' on Thursday December 9th.
I realized that most folks would probably be just as happy to give our current 'Mushrooms' chapter two weeks. And this may help contributors in the USA who are celebrating Thanksgiving this weekend and who might therefore appreciate more time to take part. (Happy Thanksgiving to our friends in the USA!)

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My profile picture is "Kaninchen und Ente" ("Rabbit and Duck") from the 23 October 1892 issue of Fliegende Blätter (see https://en.wikipedia.org/...2%80%93duck_illusion )


noWizardme
Half-elven


Thu, 5:48pm

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Three mushroom observations [In reply to] Can't Post

  1. I don't think we get to understand the background to Frodo's teenage-delinquent fungal larceny and Mrs Maggot's gift fully until next chapter. That's when Tolkien tells us 'hobbits have a passion for mushrooms' etc. I wonder why that final detail waits until Crickhollow?
  2. I notice that it is turnips, not mushrooms in the fields as the hobbits approach Maggot farm. Turnips as winter feed for cattle on the farm, perhaps? Cattle as their own contribution to a mixed farm perhaps, and I have a feeling that mushrooms grow well in well-manured fields....
  3. Maggot Farm (no idea if that's the official name...) is a pretty grand place. Before the Industrial Revolution (our best real-historical model for The Shire, probably) brick was a pretty classy building material, I think: It had the costs of winning the raw materials & transporting them by muscle power, just like stone. But unlike stone, bricks need to be fired, and that means a lot of wood to be forested and gathered (unless someone is mining coal, which also didn't' become a cheap fuel until deeper mines could be kept pumped out by steam power, and the coal transported by canal or rail). So I think the farmhouse tells us the Maggots are doing well from the mushroom business (or at least were, when the house was built)!

And that's my 'three' already. But I'll tell you the story about Tolkien and mushrooms anyway. Poor Tolkien didn't' have 'a passion for mushrooms': he was violently allergic to them. So much so that the caterers for the Tolkien Society Inaugural Ball had to avoid all traces of fungi. Hence the phrase 'non-fungi ball Tolkien'.... Wink

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My profile picture is "Kaninchen und Ente" ("Rabbit and Duck") from the 23 October 1892 issue of Fliegende Blätter (see https://en.wikipedia.org/...2%80%93duck_illusion )


Lissuin
Valinor


Thu, 9:25pm

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That is, I do agree, a better plan. [In reply to] Can't Post

Because November is the best month for birthday festivities, there have been 4 here to prepare for and to celebrate of late. There are still notes to be written up for Chapter 3 (and Chapter 4 to be read), so I am delighted with the extension. And to those of you in the 50 states, do eat like hobbits today.
See you soon-ish.


No One in Particular
Lorien


Fri, 6:56am

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Casa del Maggot [In reply to] Can't Post

In my copy of the 1966 edition, it is referred to as old Farmer Maggot's land. Current editions name added the name Bamfurlog to old Farmer Maggot's land. I don't know when that change was made, but that's how it is in the Rob Englis reading. That was the first place I came across the change in fact.

While you live, shine
Have no grief at all
Life exists only for a short while
And time demands an end.
Seikilos Epitaph

 
 

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