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Did the Tale of Adanel die with Andreth?


Feb 22, 2:19am

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Did the Tale of Adanel die with Andreth? Can't Post

So the Tale of Adanel detailing the Fall of Men by Morgoth was told from Adanel to Andreth, and after that point there's nobody that Andreth passes the tale to. Did Andreth choose not to tell the tale to anyone and decide that the knowledge of Men's fall dies with her?

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Feb 22, 1:42pm

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Well, [In reply to] Can't Post

She told at least one person, Finrod!


Feb 23, 10:54am

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Was this in Sil or in HoME? [In reply to] Can't Post

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Feb 23, 1:41pm

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Yes [In reply to] Can't Post

HME Vol X, Morgoth's Ring. Probably the most valuable volume for anyone interested in the metaphysical side of Tolkien's legendarium. The title itself reflects the orientation, coming from an essay in which T said "Just as Sauron concentrated his power in the One Ring, Morgoth dispersed his power into the very matter of Arda, thus the whole of Middle-earth was Morgoth's Ring".


Feb 23, 10:34pm

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Maybe not. [In reply to] Can't Post

If Tolkien wrote this about Andreth with a mind to include it in the Silmarillion legends then at least knowledge of the tale would have survived.

On the other hand I do not know what Tolkien had in mind when he wrote this.


Jun 29, 10:36pm

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Númenórean tradition [In reply to] Can't Post

Note 9 of the 'Athrabeth' (Morgoth's Ring) says that the 'Tale of Adanel' had entered into Númenórean tradition. So there must have been transmission, presumably from the post-Nirnaeth Arnoediad remnant of the Edain. Finrod is long gone by this point.

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