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Jan 28, 11:57am

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Today in Middle-earth

1. The Fellowship rests in Lothlórien. [Having defeated the Balrog, Gandalf's body lies on the snowy peak of Celebdil]
(not from the appendices)

..."It was Frodo who first put something of his sorrow into halting words. He was seldom moved to make song or rhyme; even in Rivendell he had listened and had not sung himself... ...But now as he sat beside the fountain in Lórien and heard about him the voices of the Elves, his thought took shape in a song that seemed fair to him; yet when he tried to repeat it to Sam only snatches remained, faded as a handful of withered leaves.

When evening in the Shire was grey
his footsteps on the Hill were heard;
before the dawn he went away
on journey long without a word.

From Wilderland to Western shore,
from northern waste to southern hill,
through dragon-lair and hidden door
and darkling woods he walked at will.

With Dwarf and Hobbit, Elves and Men,
with mortal and immortal folk,
with bird on bough and beast in den,
in their own secret tongues he spoke.

A deadly sword, a healing hand,
a back that bent beneath its load;
a trumpet-voice, a burning brand,
a weary pilgrim on the road.

A lord of wisdom throned he sat,
swift in anger, quick to laugh;
an old man in a battered hat
who leaned upon a thorny staff.

He stood upon the bridge alone
and Fire and Shadow both defied;
is staff was broken on the stone,
in Khazad-dûm his wisdom died.



...'Why, you'll be beating Mr. Bilbo next!' said Sam.
...'No, I am afraid not,' said Frodo. 'But that is the best I can do yet.'
...'Well, Mr. Frodo, if you do have another go, I hope you'll say a word about his fireworks... ...Something like this:

The finest rockets ever seen:
they burst in stars of blue and green,
or after thunder golden showers
came falling like a rain of flowers.



Though that doesn't do them justice by a long road.'
...'No, I'll leave that to you, Sam. Or perhaps to Bilbo. But—well, I can't talk of it any more. I can't bear to think of bringing the news to him.'"

[Tolkien, 1965 Ballantine, p. 465-465 FotR: Lord of the Rings]



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grammaboodawg
Latrommi


Jan 28, 12:05pm

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imho, movie Denethor was more venomous and unstable, which does put Boromir in a more sympathetic light. The movie version of Faramir and Boromir's relationship also makes me like Boromir more. He stood up for his brother and they were clearly very close while Denethor was obviously biased.



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CuriousG
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Jan 28, 9:05pm

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It must be awkward to be the "favorite son" of a very crazy father [In reply to] Can't Post

But back to Ginger's question: I imagine a lot of people seeing the movies felt more sympathetic to both Faramir and Boromir given who daddy was, which was nothing good. But I think Boromir was pretty fixed in my mind from the books, and we never see him in written form interacting with his father like we do in the extended editions ("For Gondor!" Wow, what a delivery. Sean Bean was born to act.), so I'm not sure I make any connection myself.

In fact, without looking it up in the book, I'm pretty sure in "The Council of Elrond" that Boromir admits to basically stealing the quest from Faramir to figure out what the prophetic dream meant, and he seemed to steal it so he could arrive back home even more victorious and beloved than before. So, he just seemed full of himself from early on. But the movie version was so much different/better. "One does not simply walk into Mordor." There, Sean Bean is stuck in my head as Boromir with superglue.


grammaboodawg
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Jan 29, 11:24am

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Here is part 2 of a 4-part Book Spoiler that takes a look at the Fellowship in Caras Galadon standing before Celeborn and Galadriel... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From The Mirror of Galadriel: The Fellowship of the Ring


..."'Here dwell Celeborn and Galadriel,' said Haldir. 'It is their wish that you should ascend and speak with them... ...I will go first... ...Let Frodo come next and with him Legolas. The others may follow as they wish. It is a long climb for those that are not accustomed to such stairs, but you may rest upon the way.'
... As he climbed slowly up Frodo passed many flets: some on one side, some on another... ...some set about the bole of the tree, so that the ladder passed through them. At a great height above the ground he came to a wide talan, like the deck of a great ship. On it was built a house, so large that almost it would have served for a hall of Men upon the earth. He entered behind Haldir, and found... ...he was in a chamber of oval shape, in the midst of which grew the trunk of the great mallorn, now tapering towards its crown...
... ...The chamber was filled with a soft light; its walls were green and silver and its roof of gold. Many Elves were seated there. On two chairs beneath the bole of the tree and canopied by a living bough there sat... ...Celeborn and Galadriel. They stood up to greet their guests, after the manner of Elves, even those who were accounted mighty kings. Very tall they were, and the Lady no less tall than the Lord; and they were grave and beautiful... ...clad wholly in white... ...the hair of the lady was of deep gold... ...the hair of the Lord Celeborn was of silver long and bright; but no sign of age was upon them, unless it were in the depths of their eyes; for these were keen as lances in the starlight, and yet profound, the wells of deep memory.
... Haldir led Frodo before them and the Lord welcomed him in his own tongue. The Lady Galadriel said no word but looked long upon his face.
... 'Sit now beside my chair, Frodo of the Shire!' said Celeborn. 'When all have come we will speak together.'
... Each of the companions he greeted courteously by name as they entered. 'Welcome Aragorn son of Arathorn... ...It is eight and thirty years of the world outside since you came to this land; and those years lie heavy on you. But the end is near, for good or ill. Here lay aside your burden for a while!'
...'Welcome son of Thranduil! Too seldom do my kindred journey hither from the North.
... 'Welcome Gimli son of Glóin! It is long indeed since we saw one of Durin's folk in Caras Galadon... ...today we have broken our long law. May it be a sign that though the world is now dark better days are at hand, and that friendship shall be renewed between our peoples.' Gimli bowed low."



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grammaboodawg
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Jan 30, 12:57pm

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Here is part 3 of a 4-part Book Spoiler that takes a look at the Fellowship with Celeborn and Galadriel... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From The Mirror of Galadriel: The Fellowship of the Ring


... When all the guests were seated before his chair the Lord looked at them again. 'Here there are eight... ...Nine were to set out: so said the messages. But maybe there has been some change of counsel that we have not heard. Elrond is far away, and darkness gathers between us, and all this year the shadows have grown longer.'
... 'Nay, there was no change of counsel,' said the Lady Galadriel, speaking for the first time. Her voice was clear and musical, but deeper than woman's wont. 'Gandalf the Grey set out with the Company, but he did not pass the borders of this land... ...tell us where he is; for I much desired to speak with him again. But I cannot see him from afar, unless he comes within the fences of Lothlórien: a grey mist is about him... ...the ways of his feet and of his mind are hidden from me.'
... 'Alas!' said Aragorn. 'Gandalf the Grey fell into shadow. He remained in Moria and did not escape.'
... At these words... ...the Elves in the hall cried aloud in grief and amazement. 'These are evil tidings,' said Celeborn, 'the most evil that have been spoken here in long years full of grievous deeds.' He turned to Haldir. 'Why has nothing of this been told to me before?' he asked in Elven-tongue.
... 'We have not spoken to Haldir of our deeds or our purpose,' said Legolas. 'At first we were weary and danger was too close behind... ...afterwards we almost forgot our grief for a time, as we walked in gladness on the fair paths of Lórien.'
... 'Yet our grief is great and our loss cannot be mended,' said Frodo. 'Gandalf was our guide, and he led us through Moria; and when our escape seemed beyond hope he saved us, and he fell.'
... 'Tell us now the full tale!' said Celeborn.
... Then Aragorn recounted all that had happened upon the pass of Caradhras, and in the days that followed... ...he spoke of Balin and his book, and the fight in the Chamber of Mazarbul... ...the fire... ...the narrow bridge... ...the coming of the Terror. 'An evil of the Ancient World it seemed, such as I have never seen before,' said Aragorn. 'It was both a shadow and a flame, strong and terrible.'
... 'It was a Balrog of Morgoth,' said Legolas; 'of all elf-banes the most deadly, save the One who sits in the Dark Tower.'
... 'Indeed I saw upon the bridge that which haunts our darkest dreams, I saw Durin's Bane,' said Gimli in a low voice, and dread was in his eyes.
... 'Alas!' said Celeborn. 'We long have feared that under Caradhras a terror slept... ...had I known that the Dwarves had stirred up this evil in Moria again, I would have forbidden you to pass the northern borders... ...and all that went with you. And if it were possible, one would say that at the last Gandalf fell from wisdom into folly, going needlessly into the net of Moria.'
... 'He would be rash indeed that said that thing,' said Galadriel gravely. 'Needless were none of the deeds of Gandalf in life. Those that followed him knew not his mind and cannot report his full purpose... ...the followers are blameless. Do not repent of your welcome to the Dwarf. If our folk had been exiled long and far from Lothlórien, who of the Galadrim, even Celeborn the Wise, would pass nigh and would not wish to look upon their ancient home, though it had become an abode of dragons?
... 'Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram... ...cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dûm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone.' She looked upon Gimli, who sat glowering and sad, and she smiled. And the Dwarf, hearing the names given in his own ancient tongue, looked up and met her eyes... ...it seemed to him that he looked suddenly into the heart of an enemy and saw there love and understanding. Wonder came into his face, and then he smiled in answer.
...He rose clumsily and bowed in dwarf-fashion, saying: 'Yet more fair is the living land of Lórien, and the Lady Galadriel is above all the jewels that lie beneath the earth...!'
... ...At length Celeborn spoke again. 'I did not know that your plight was so evil,' he said. 'Let Gimli forget my harsh words: I spoke in the trouble of my heart. I will do what I can to aid you, each according to his wish and need, but especially that one of the little folk who bears the burden.'"



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CuriousG
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Jan 30, 1:38pm

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grammaboodawg
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Jan 31, 11:12am

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Here's the last Book Spoiler of this set of the Fellowship speaking with Celeborn and Galadriel... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From The Mirror of Galadriel: The Fellowship of the Ring


..."'Your quest is known to us,' said Galadriel, looking at Frodo. 'But we will not here speak of it more openly. Yet not in vain will it prove... ...that you came to this land seeking aid, as Gandalf himself plainly purposed. For the Lord of the Galadrim is accounted the wisest of the Elves of Middle-earth... ...a giver of gifts beyond the power of kings. He has dwelt in the West since the days of dawn... ...I have dwelt with him years uncounted; for ere the fall of Nargothrond of Gondolin I passed over the mountains, and together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.
... 'I it was who first summoned the White Council. And if my designs had not gone amiss, it would have been governed by Gandalf the Grey... ...then mayhap things would be gone otherwise. But even now there is hope left. I will not give you counsel... ...For not in doing or contriving, nor in choosing between this course and another, can I avail; but only in knowing what was and is, and in part... ...what shall be. But this I will say to you: your Quest stands upon the edge of a knife. Stray but a little and it will fail, to the ruin of all. Yet hope remains while all the Company is true....
......with that word she held them with her eyes, and in silence looked searchingly at each of them in turn. None save Legolas and Aragorn could long endure her glance. Sam quickly bushed and hung his head.
... At length... ...Galadriel released them from her eyes, and she smiled. 'Do not let your hearts be troubled... ...Tonight you shall sleep in peace.' Then they sighed and felt suddenly weary, as those who have been questioned long and deeply, though no words had been spoken openly.
... 'Go now!' said Celeborn. 'You are worn with sorrow and much toil. Even if your Quest did not concern us closely, you should have refuge in this City, until you were healed and refreshed. Now you will rest... ...we will not speak of your further road for a while.'
...That night the Company slept upon the ground, much to the satisfaction of the hobbits."



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