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Our old friend a.s. (an seileachan) has sailed West
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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Dec 14 2019, 3:53pm

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A year ago last May I posted that she was facing a serious medical challenge. It was glioblastoma, the most virulent type of brain cancer.

http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?post=945461;search_string=a.s.;#945461

She fought valiantly, partly for the sake of her disabled daughter who had Down Syndrome. (She has two other daughters as well.) Her daughter was stricken with something like pneumonia about a month ago and sailed West before our friend did. Her remaining daughters are, of course, devastated.

Her nickname is next to mine on the TORn Map, and I have always thought of her every time I pass by it. I finally spoke to her on the phone last summer. In all our years of online friendship, it was the first time I ever heard her voice.

Here's a sample of her wisdom: http://newboards.theonering.net/forum/gforum/perl/gforum.cgi?do=post_view_threaded;post=174328;so=ASC;sb=post_latest_reply;#174328

If you remember her, or even if you don't, I invite you to stand and face West and raise a glass to her.

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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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Otaku-sempai
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Dec 14 2019, 4:04pm

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Thanks for letting us know Aunt Dora. [In reply to] Can't Post

I am saddened to learn that Mary has lost her battle and my condolences go out to her family and friends. She occupied a special place on the forums.

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Lily Fairbairn
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Dec 14 2019, 4:06pm

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Oh no. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm just now getting back to my keyboard after a couple of weeks away and am so, so sorry to see this bad news first of all. She faced the last couple of years with such courage and good humor I kept hoping she could delay her visit to the Grey Havens.

Here's to her arrival on the far green shore, and a happy reunion with her daughter. To a.s.!

Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow....


Greenwood Hobbit
Tol Eressea


Dec 14 2019, 4:38pm

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How very sad. Yes, I do remember her - [In reply to] Can't Post

and will raise a glass to her tonight. Sorry to hear of a double tragedy hitting that family, they must be hurting - for their sister and now their mother. They'll be relieved to see the end of 2019.


CuriousG
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Dec 14 2019, 5:07pm

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Sad news indeed [In reply to] Can't Post

I remember a.s. and always looked forward to her posts, which were quite thoughtful--and thanks for listing just one of them, where she really shines through the screen and keyboard. She was a good soul, and we were lucky to have her here.


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Dec 14 2019, 5:11pm

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I got to meet a.s./Mary once, years ago, at the moot Entmaiden hosted in Chicago. We all had a delicious dinner at Entmaiden’s, and visited the Tolkien exhibit at the Museum of Natural History. Mary and I shared the experience of parenting a child with Down Syndrome, and I treasured her words of wisdom in that world as much as her writing about LotR. She was a regular poster on Facebook, commenting on books and current events with vivid , witty expression and passion. She was loving and fun-loving and wicked smart. I admired her, and have already been missing her voice since she’s been unable to post. A toast to Mary and the far green country, under a swift sunrise.

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grammaboodawg
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Dec 14 2019, 5:31pm

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*facing West.. in tears* [In reply to] Can't Post

Thank you for letting us know. I've dreaded this... praying for her every night since we found out. She is that Star in the West I see on clear nights... and I'll always remember her.



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Dec 14 2019, 6:43pm

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I'm glad that I had the chance to know her on TORN. [In reply to] Can't Post

She was a lovely lady and I enjoyed reading her posts. She brightened our boards.

Many blessings to her and her three daughters.

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Dec 14 2019, 7:10pm

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I am sorry to hear this :( [In reply to] Can't Post

I always loved her posts Unsure

May the Lord be with her family in the coming days, and I raise a glass of sparkling cider to the West in her memory Heart

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Dec 14 2019, 7:59pm

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I will raise a glass to a very special lady. [In reply to] Can't Post

I interacted with a s quite a lot on- and off-board in earlier TORn days, and every interaction was a delight. She truly was a gem. Since her diagnosis it's been a privilege to be able to follow her on the Caring Bridge site. When she stopped being able to post there, I thought her passing might not be far away.

A beautiful spirit; a diamond who will continue to shine in the memories of all who knew and loved her.

Thank you for letting us know, Aunt Dora. I'm posting through tears.


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Ethel Duath
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Dec 15 2019, 1:58am

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Oh, oh no. I remember and have missed her [In reply to] Can't Post

Glass raised, prayer said.



dernwyn
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Dec 15 2019, 2:51am

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Thank you for letting us know, Aunt Dora [In reply to] Can't Post

She was ill for so long, and her passing is a grief to us, but this is so sad, her family losing both her and her daughter in such a short time!

She was a lovely, remarkable person. I and other TORnfolks met her years ago when MythCon was held at a college in my state, she had made a special trip to attend. She has been greatly missed around here, and now there is another empty chair in the Reading Room. Unsure

*raises mug* May it be, that she and her daughter have found themselves at the open door of a certain Inn, being welcomed inside by familiar faces, who have drinks poured and waiting for them...


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Silverlode
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Dec 15 2019, 3:14am

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I remember her well. [In reply to] Can't Post

She was always a delight to have around the boards and will be very much missed. Heart

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And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.




sador
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Dec 15 2019, 6:54am

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I've responded in the RR [In reply to] Can't Post

Squire has written a very touching tribute there. (He didn't mention the smiley wars, though).
But I did not know her daughter had also passed away. What a tragedy!


I know she hasn't been around for a long time, and had followed a bit (less diligently than I ought to have) her on Caring Bridge. But still, it feels empty and hollow now that she had finally succumbed.
For a long time, posting something on TORn became for me less a preaching to the whole world than writing to a select crowd whose opinions I care about. I think less about whether my post gets 50 or 600 views, than of the special people I hope are reading and would love to know what they think, or how they feel, about what I wrote.
a.s. was one of the people I have always had in mind whenever I posted something - like weaver, and hobbitlove whenever I posted on the Movie boards (drogo was not, as he had been less and less active since I've joined); and now they have gone for ever, and the world feels so cold and empty!

Well, at least gone for ever from this mode of existence.


I remember one discussion, in which somebody asked how to describe the main theme of The Lord of the Rings in one word, or phrase, she replied: "Loss". I could not find this post in a short search, but this is one (relatively recent) post in which she addressed this topic.


And regarding feelings of loss this is a post she wrote, consoling another member of TORn for the loss of her mother.
I wish I could do half as well. But all I can say to those who knew her personally, as a family member or friend, is: I envy you for the privilege that you had.



Now Mary (a.s.) is far beyond the pain of this world. And I hope those she have left behind will find the courage, love, and wisdom to carry on without her.



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Annael
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Dec 15 2019, 4:38pm

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I do remember her. What sad news . . . I wonder if she felt more at ease about her own passing after her daughter went, knowing that she wouldn't be left behind?

I don't always notice when people stop posting, but it occurred to me a week or two ago that we don't see much of you these days, Aunt Dora. Everything okay?

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Patty
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Dec 15 2019, 8:16pm

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So sad to hear this, Dora... [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks.

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Altaira
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Dec 15 2019, 10:22pm

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Very sad news. I also followed her posts on Caring Bridge when she made them. The contributions she made both on and off the boards over the years will be sorely missed, as will her intelligence, wit and warmth. I raise a glass to a first-class, intelligent, wonderful woman who enriched us all while we were lucky enough to have her here. Heart


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Darkstone
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Dec 16 2019, 2:25am

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Very tragic. [In reply to] Can't Post

A brilliant and discerning mind has been lost. She was one of my most favorite TORnsibs. I admired and respected her a great deal. My deepest sympathies to her family.

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Aunt Dora Baggins
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Dec 16 2019, 2:08pm

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I'm fine. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've just been hijacked by facebook. I see you there, but I know facebook uses weird algorithms and we don't see everything our friends post. I'm glad there's a facebook TORn group; these old boards are pretty creaky and sometimes I have trouble getting them to load.

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"For DORA BAGGINS in memory of a LONG correspondence, with love from Bilbo; on a large wastebasket. Dora was Drogo's sister, and the eldest surviving female relative of Bilbo and Frodo; she was ninety-nine, and had written reams of good advice for more than half a century."
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cats16
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Dec 16 2019, 8:24pm

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Thinking of a.s.'s friends and family, both here and elsewhere. Heart

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Annael
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Dec 17 2019, 3:10am

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and I [In reply to] Can't Post

follow TORN on FB but for some reason almost never see those posts! Glad you're fine.

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NottaSackville
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Dec 17 2019, 2:25pm

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Well, crud. [In reply to] Can't Post

A pillar gone, and our community lessened.

I raise a glass in tribute to you, a.s., I hope you are smiling and enjoying all the West has to offer.

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Lissuin
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Dec 18 2019, 3:13am

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that something smart, well-considered or sassy - and likely all three at once - would be written there. Enjoy this next leg of your journey, Mary.


ElanorTX
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Dec 18 2019, 6:33am

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she was so thoughtful [In reply to] Can't Post

sending me messages even when her own life was in turmoil

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SirDennisC
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Dec 19 2019, 5:22pm

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What? No! [In reply to] Can't Post

a.s. seemed so spunky and youthful. Oh...

Thank you for sharing this news Auntie. There’s no finer gift than to be remembered.

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