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Weapons capable of wounding Smaug?

Stronghold
The Shire

Nov 13, 4:36am

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Did the Elves ever forge a blade that might have pierced dragon scale? Angrist maybe? Or, by the end of Age 3 was Smaug just grown too tough for even a blade of eol?


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 13, 6:41am

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Weapons of the High Elves and Dwarves [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think the Mirkwood Elves would have had such weapons, but I expect that the High Elves of the First Age would have produced a few that would have pierced Smaug's hide--even through his jeweled armor. The same could probably be said for the Dwarves of Belegost, Nogrod and Khazad-dm.

Aeglos: The spear of Gil-galad.
Anglachel: Sword forged of meteoric iron by the Teleri Elf El; reforged as Gurthang.
Angrist: Knife made by Telchar of Nogrod; it would have probably have had to be reworked into a spearhead to be able to seriously injure Smaug.
Anguirel: The sword of El; mate to Anglachel.

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(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Nov 13, 6:43am)


Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Nov 14, 9:22pm

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Well if one mangy black arrow from Bard could do it [In reply to] Can't Post

I would imagine that the wood-elves would have more than a few. Especially if added with Dwarven technology. Or at a pinch some could have travelled to Lorien and obtained a weapon or two.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 15, 1:25am

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I assume we are discussing Smaug of the films. [In reply to] Can't Post

Jackson's Smaug is depicted as several times larger than his literary namesake, and presumably even more difficult to injure and kill. The arrows of the Wood-elves would have been little more than mosquito bites to the film-dragon, though the Sindar of Mirkwood might have possessed a few weapons capable of inconveniencing the beast.

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2ndBreffest
Lorien


Nov 16, 10:45am

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well... [In reply to] Can't Post

apparently they could have just melted down all the gold in Esgaroth and fired it at Smaug with a huge catapult, possibly even a kind of fire-hose, and he would have become so heavy he would have sunk into the Long Lake and drowned.


sparrowruth
Rivendell


Nov 18, 4:05am

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no matter which version of Smaug we are talking about... [In reply to] Can't Post

that arrow did have to hit the one spot where he was missing a scale. I had assumed that Stronghold was wondering about weapons capable of getting through Smaug's scaly armour. Though indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the elves had known about the missing scale and gotten close enough to aim at it, they could have killed Smaug just as easily


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 18, 2:52pm

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Smaug of the films is a bit more problematic. [In reply to] Can't Post


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I had assumed that Stronghold was wondering about weapons capable of getting through Smaug's scaly armour. Though indeed, I wouldn't be surprised if the elves had known about the missing scale and gotten close enough to aim at it, they could have killed Smaug just as easily


The dragon was so huge in the Hobbit movies that I'm not sure that any normal arrow could have reached his heart. Or would have even killed him if it had done so.

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(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Nov 18, 2:53pm)


sparrowruth
Rivendell


Nov 20, 7:21pm

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Good point, Otaku [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Solicitr
Rohan

Nov 20, 7:38pm

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Well, [In reply to] Can't Post

PJ's Smaug would have required one of these




Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 21, 12:59am

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Sure! [In reply to] Can't Post

It worked on Roland Emmerich's Godzilla.

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Paulo Gabriel
Rivendell

Nov 21, 8:18am

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lmao [In reply to] Can't Post

Laugh


2ndBreffest
Lorien


Nov 24, 11:25am

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haha [In reply to] Can't Post

Sadly, I wouldn't have been the least bit surprised if PJ had actually done that.

 
 

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