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Why did the Men of Dor-Lomin field their entire fighting force for the Nirnaeth Arnoediad?

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Rohan

Aug 30, 1:48am

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It seems really unwise, particularly in hindsight since it left the civilians unprotected against the Easterlings and they sat on their butts until the War of Wrath.

I always follow my job through.


CuriousG
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Aug 30, 4:59pm

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so they had to put every man on the fighting field if they hoped to win. It does seem unwise, but if they'd won, the decision would look differently. Gambling, I guess.


Solicitr
Rohan

Sep 2, 11:36pm

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It seems really unwise, particularly in hindsight since it left the civilians unprotected against the Easterlings and they sat on their butts until the War of Wrath.


Because that was the way ancient and medieval armies (except the Roman and Carthaginian) operated, which is why wars generally turned on One Big Battle. Harold went to Hastings with all of his professional housecarls and as many of the fyrd militia as could make it- and William became the Conqueror in an afternoon. You didn't leave any able-bodied man behind. Tolkien was of course calquing on this tradition.


Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Sep 6, 11:20pm

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The men of Brethil, their allies did not send everyone. There seemed to be some left after the battle and later did deeds with Turin and the Dragon.


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Rohan

Sep 7, 12:16pm

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1) While the Haladin suffered heavy losses during the retreat over Anfauglith, they weren't wiped out like the House of Hador;

2) Brethil wasn't subsequently occupied and enslaved by Melkorians like Dor-Lomin was; and

3) The fighting men of Turin's time (Hunthor, Dorlas etc) had all been children at the time of the Nirnaeth, like Turin himself was. This was a generation later.


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