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thrift shop find: Pacific island art???

swordwhale
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Aug 17, 3:03pm

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thrift shop find: Pacific island art??? Can't Post

I pulled up to the Community Aid in Hanover PA with a shipload of stuff from my kitchen cupboard (really, am I ever going to make a bundt cake? Nooooooo.)

Propped against the donation sign was a four foot tall carving with a fish, a palm tree and an oddly awesome face that seemed to combine characteristics of much of humanity: a straight blond beard, a twist top of black hair like a wave, and a brown skinned face (the color of the wood) with features that might be anything.

Its one piece of wood, the back is hollow, and there is a small carved hole under the topknot of hair. Has a hanger so may have been done for the tourist industry. How old is who knows? Did someone inherit an estate and go, what IS this??? I cant imagine anyone who traveled to a faraway place giving up an iconic bit of local art.

So reaching out anywhere I can think of to try to identify what this is.

It vaguely resembles some New Caledonia/Melanisian art (long face, straight beard)...

but, um... yeah...

It's an original carving and may or may not be old. Probably picked up somewhere by a tourist, then not wanted by the progeny at the estate sale (guessing).

I think it's quite fabulous.

pics etc here:

https://swordwhale.wordpress.com/...hrift-shop-treasure/

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swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Aug 17, 3:13pm

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just in case the pics didn't link [In reply to] Can't Post

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Otaku-sempai
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Aug 17, 6:02pm

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Interesting piece of folk art(?). [In reply to] Can't Post

If it were me, I'd be tempted to take that in to some Antiques Roadshow-type event and see what the experts there might make of it.

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squire
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Aug 17, 8:42pm

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Very interesting mystery [In reply to] Can't Post

I tried searching for this piece or elements of it and have come up blank so far. My best guess is it is a contemporary piece that draws on a native art tradition, but from what land or group I can't make out.

I did find this (on the left), from the Ivory Coast in Africa, which has a similar facial line and incised hair patterns

But I'm not crazy about this possibility. On your piece the face seems more Melanasian, the beard is remarkable, and one can't just ignore the incorporation of iconic elements (the fish and the tree) above the face.

Do let us know if you ever find out what this is and who it was made by.



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Ataahua
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Aug 17, 10:05pm

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Or an antique shop that deals in wood. [In reply to] Can't Post

They might at least be able to identify if the piece is freshly carved or not.

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Lissuin
Valinor


Aug 18, 12:22am

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Maybe check New Zealand's Te Papa online collections? [In reply to] Can't Post

help with identifying items:
https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/...treasure-or-specimen
about Te Papa collections online:
https://www.tepapa.govt.nz/...t-collections-online
Pacific Cultures Collection and Pacific Cultures Contemporary Collection:
https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/topic/1330
https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/topic/1335

They could perhaps point you towards the most likely cultures or islands and you could continue from there.
Good luck!


Greenwood Hobbit
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Aug 18, 9:04pm

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How intriguing! [In reply to] Can't Post

I have to say it looks newish to me, but I'd be happy to be proved wrong. Interesting and impressive items do still turn up in charity shops and at car boot sales from time to time, as any viewer of 'Antiques Roadshow' will see fairly regularly. I hope you find out more about your new wooden wonder!


grammaboodawg
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Aug 18, 11:55pm

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Wow... that's beautiful! [In reply to] Can't Post

I have no idea what it is or where it came from... but it's obviously a serious piece of artwork! I think you're on the right track of what it is, though. Wow...


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swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Sat, 8:23pm

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thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

wow, I haven't checked in in awhile,

good ideas all.

He's the Guardian of my inner house door now. Perhaps I'll figure out where he came from at some point!

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grammaboodawg
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A Quest! Happy Hunting! :D // [In reply to] Can't Post

 



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