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We need to talk about Gandalf
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Solicitr
Rohan

Aug 9, 12:12am

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know that he had been at least an occasional tutor/mentor to Faramir. And I would venture probably many other young princes of Gondor and Arnor if they were receptive.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Aug 9, 12:27am

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know that he had been at least an occasional tutor/mentor to Faramir. And I would venture probably many other young princes of Gondor and Arnor if they were receptive.


Yes, that was what I was referencing, though Arnor had already broken up into the three smaller kingdoms of Arthedain, Cardolan and Rhudaur by the time Gandalf came to Middle-earth. Still, he surely had some sort of interactions with the Dúnedain of the North Kingdoms. We don't really know what Gandalf attempted to do about the rise of Angmar and the Witch-king's assaults on his neighbors.

"Change is inevitable. Growth is optional." - DRWolf (after John C. Maxwell)

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Aug 9, 12:29am)


Solicitr
Rohan

Aug 9, 4:10am

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poured good advice into deaf ears, as with Denethor


InTheChair
Lorien

Sep 25, 9:09pm

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There's also Saruman. [In reply to] Can't Post

I think what's implied is that if he'd been head of the Council, they would have acted more aggressively against Sauron when he was weaker, as Gandalf urged but was overruled by Saruman.

Was this the only bad decision taken by the White Counsil? To leave Sauron alone for a time because of Sarumans hopes of discovering the Rings whereabouts? Or is it just the only one we hear about?

Saruman is also interesting to consider. He was awarded the keys to Orthanc by one of the Stewards. Was this based on his reputation alone? Or what kind of help did he give Gondor that won him their respect and gratitude?


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