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Chronicling The Hobbit
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Chen G.

Apr 17, 9:59pm

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which is why I always regard The Hobbit trilogy as primarily an adaptation of "Durin's Folk" than of The Hobbit.

The Hobbit novel gives the trilogy its sheer plot. But Durin's Folk gives it its narrative, its themes, its tone, its sense of scale, etcetra.

There's one scene at the end of the prologue where I realized this: its one of my favourite pieces of Tolkien's writing, that being Thorin working in the smithy and ruminating upon all the wrongs that have been inflicted upon him and his people. Its extremely evocative and I was extatic to see it in the movie!

However, a lot of the finer details which the filmmakers couldn't use but could closely replicate, are definitely missing from Durin's Folk and were clearly gleaned from The Quest of Erebor and paraphrased for the movie.

(This post was edited by Chen G. on Apr 17, 10:00pm)

Chen G.

Apr 21, 8:47pm

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that some of the Erebor prologue material was shot at the very end of principal photography. Jackson's cameon and (if the reel from ComiCon, appended to one of the production diaries, is to be believed) the Thorin rallying the Dwarves against Smaug seemed to have been shoot at that time.

It may be ceremonious of me, but I enjoy the idea that some of the material which in some way sets-up a rivalry between Thorin and Smaug was shot at a stage in which the confrontation between the two was at least conceptually within the filmmakers' mind.

Back in 2012, I fully expected that confrontation to arrive. Because its such a natural part of any dragon story, it doesn't need much in the way of overt, intentional setup, but still.

(This post was edited by Chen G. on Apr 21, 8:50pm)

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