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Cirashala
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Feb 2 2019, 11:51pm
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Shire alphabet?
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Hello all!
I just skimmed the LOTR appendices and while it does include Tengwar and the Cirth (runes), I didn't see any alphabet for hobbits. Yet we know both from book and film that they write.
So my question is- does anyone know where PJ and Co found the alphabet they used in the movies? Or was it a movie invention? And if so, does anyone know where a copy of the Shire alphabet could be found online?
Thanks!
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Silverlode
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Feb 3 2019, 12:28am
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were created by Daniel Reeve for the movies. His fonts page is here: http://www.danielreeve.co.nz/Fonts/
Silverlode
Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.
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Solicitr
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Apr 11 2019, 3:08pm
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Westron (common speech) was written in the Feanorian characters, which had been adopted by nearly everyone in the West- even some Dwarves (such as Ori) would use them for writing, even if "official" Dwarvish Westron, like Khuzdul, used the Angerthas.
But here we run into Tolkien's "fiction of translation," which was actually a retcon devised after the main narrative had been completed, or nearly so, but before publication, and Tolkien never quite edited his text to fit throughout. So there are moments where Frodo makes comments that imply that the Tengwar were specifically "Elvish" rather than just his everyday letters, as if the Latin alphabet were only used for writing Latin!
The FofT (explained in Appendix F): Common Speech (Westron) was "translated" into English. Mannish tongues related to Westron were translated into ancient relatives of mod. English: Anglo-Saxon, Old Norse, and (for a couple of names) Gothic. Unrelated languages (Quenya, Sindarin, Khuzdul, Black Speech) were left "untranslated."
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