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When do the surviving Dwarves of the Hobbit finally die?

Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Jan 12, 12:21am

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When do the surviving Dwarves of the Hobbit finally die? Can't Post

We do know obviously that some die at the Battle of Five Armies. And some did in Moria. But what about the others? I expect that more than one or two died in the siege of the lonely mountain in the war of the Ring. But I would also imagine that some survived but for how long? Would any have lived up to Aragorn's death or would that have been a bit too long even for a Dwarf? And if they didn't live that long when would some of them have met their end Or is it even possible that some of the other ones apart from Gloin had some kind of offspring that did live to beyond the end of the narrative? Even if not all Dwarves had children and this probably continued into the fourth age. .Maybe some where around at the time of Merry and Pippin's death? Anyway, I was just wondering!


Otaku-sempai
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Jan 12, 3:28am

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I don't think we have death-dates for all of the Dwarves of the Company of Thorin, in particular for several who may have lived into the Fourth Age (F.A.). Here is what I can find:

~ Thorin Oakenshield: 2746-2941
~ Balin: 2763-2994
~ Dwalin: 2772-F.A. 92
~ Óin: 2774-2994
~ Glóin: 2783-F.A. 15
~ Fíli: 2859-2941
~ Kíli: 2864-2941
~ Ori: died 2994
~ Nori: fl. 2941-3018
~ Dori: fl. 2941-3018
~ Bifur: fl. 2941-3018
~ Bofur: fl. 2941-3018
~ Bombur: fl. 2941-3018

~ Dáin Ironfoot: 2767-3019

fl. = flourished

Fíli & Kíli perished defending their uncle Thorin in the Battle of Five Armies. Thorin was mortally wounded in the battle and died of his injuries.

The surviving Dwarves of Thorin's company remained in Erebor after the Battle of Five Armies and became very prosperous. In 2989, Balin led an expedition to re-colonize Moria; Orcs destroyed the colony in 2994 resulting in the deaths of Balin, Óin and Ori. Of those who remained in Erebor, several may have fought in the Battle of Dale in 3019 and might have died there alongside King Dáin.

Ballin was the oldest Dwarf of the company next to Thorin; Fili and Kili were the youngest. Bifur was older than Fíli and Kíli at least "by some fifty years".

"I reject your reality and substitute my own." - Adam Savage

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Jan 12, 3:36am)


N.E. Brigand
Half-elven


Jan 13, 12:51am

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Dwalin lived a very long time. [In reply to] Can't Post

Christopher Tolkien, examining the drafts of Appendix A, writes that the date is not a mistake introduced during publication, but he still suspects it is in error.

As I wrote here once before, I prefer to think that Tolkien was having fun with the Norse meaning of Dwalin's name: "dawdler".


Treachery, treachery I fear; treachery of that miserable creature.

But so it must be. Let us remember that a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend.


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Cygnus
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Jan 14, 4:46am

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Always amazed [In reply to] Can't Post

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