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Aragorn, Aragorn, Aragorn

Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Dec 1 2018, 11:11pm

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With maybe a bit of Gimli and Legolas thrown in! But would 5 series about Aragorn be a bit too much possibly? Although to be fair, we don't know how long a series will be, in some of these programs they can be quite short! But i wonder if there could be a bit of light relief from this very heroic character. Some more normal people perhaps seen as Middle-Earth is very much about how the deeds of normal people affect the greater matters. Even if only as a spin off or a mini part of a series. Maybe some episodes about some Hobbits, yes remember them? In an Inn in the everyday surroundings of the Green Dragon!


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 2 2018, 1:18am

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Well, if the entire series is indeed about Aragorn then we might see Hobbits in the first season and towards the end. For the rest of the time, our hero is likely to be far from hobbit-lands.

On the other hand, there should be plenty of opportunities for Aragorn to encounter and learn from common Men; his journeys are likely to take him to such places as Bree, Wilderland, Lake-town, Dale, Rohan, Dunland, Gondor, Umbar, Dorwinion, Rhn, and Near and Far Harad.

"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison


Lucky Luke
Bree


Dec 2 2018, 12:47pm

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Well, for a long time, when Tolkien started writing the Lord of the rings, Strider was actually a hobbit named Trotter. He was a wild hobbit, who walked in wooden shoes because his feet has been wounded by the enemy. He is a very cool character, who has been crafted by Tolkien himself and who has a natural link to Aragorn. That could be a way to do it. An adventurous hobbit, Trotter could venture much further than the Shire. Being named Trotter, the hobbit could also be the one who gives Aragorn his surname Strider. Hey, if one of the show's writer's is lurking, I want to be credited and paid fort that idea!


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 2 2018, 1:47pm

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Someone on the design team for The One Ring Roleplaying Game had much the same idea, adapting Trotter (minus the wooden shoes) as a pre-generated hero for the game.



Larger image here.

And then there is the Easterly Inn, established in Wilderland (in the adventure supplement Tales from Wilderland) with the permission of Beorn by the Brandybuck brothers Dodinas and Dinodas and Dony's wife Agatha and two young sons.

"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison

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squire
Half-elven


Dec 2 2018, 2:03pm

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Poor old Trotter turned out not to pack the gear needed for the beloved Corps [In reply to] Can't Post

Trotter the hero hobbit ranger was abandoned on the snows of Caradhras, where it became apparent his lack of stature and strength made him just as vulnerable and in need of help from Men, Elves, and Dwarves as it did Frodo or the other halflings. Trotter became a Man at that moment, according to the account Christopher Tolkien assembles in his History of Middle-earth.

In short (ha ha), an "adventurous" hero hobbit along the lines of Strider the Ranger is a contradiction in terms. Or at least, a contradiction in Tolkien's terms. As Osaku notes for us, it may not be a contradiction in a game-writing team's terms, or perhaps in a TV-series writers' terms.



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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 2 2018, 2:09pm

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The edit window expired, but the nickname of Dodinas Brandybuck should be Dody. And his brother Dinodas is also known as Dindy.



"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison


Lucky Luke
Bree


Dec 3 2018, 12:45pm

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Nice. When was that game issued?


Lucky Luke
Bree


Dec 3 2018, 12:56pm

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I wonder if that is the only explanation for the drastic changes made to the character. The backstory of Aragorn, needed for the expansion of the story, might have played an important role as well. As for adventurous hobbits, we know at least of five (not counting Trotter!) so I'm not sure we can say it'a a contradiction in the author's mind. I'm guessing that Tolkien must have made these changes with mixed feelings.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 3 2018, 2:55pm

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TOR has been around since 2011. [In reply to] Can't Post

The One Ring - Adventures over the Edge of the Wild debuted in 2011 from game company Cubicle 7. Designed by Francesco Nepittelllo with Marco Maggi, and art by John Howe, Jon Hodgson and Tomasz Jedruszek. The second edition of the game was re-titled The One Ring Roleplaying Game and combined the previously separate Adventurer's Guide and Loremaster's Guide into a single, hardcover volume. There have been a fair number of supplements covering various parts of Eriador, Wilderland and Rohan, with more on the way.



"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison


Archestratie
The Shire

Dec 3 2018, 2:59pm

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Well, if the entire series is indeed about Aragorn then we might see Hobbits in the first season and towards the end. For the rest of the time, our hero is likely to be far from hobbit-lands.

On the other hand, there should be plenty of opportunities for Aragorn to encounter and learn from common Men; his journeys are likely to take him to such places as Bree, Wilderland, Lake-town, Dale, Rohan, Dunland, Gondor, Umbar, Dorwinion, Rhn, and Near and Far Harad.


That would be so much fun. I'd love to see a tour of Middle-earth like that. Maybe visit Rivendale too.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 3 2018, 3:22pm

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Is that the home of Archivel, Betwyn and Veroniel? Tongue

"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison


Chen G.
Lorien

Dec 3 2018, 4:06pm

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On the other hand, there should be plenty of opportunities for Aragorn to encounter and learn from common Men; his journeys are likely to take him to such places as Bree, Wilderland, Lake-town, Dale, Rohan, Dunland, Gondor, Umbar, Dorwinion, Rhn, and Near and Far Harad.


Far Harad, Forodwaith and the like are interesting to me. I want some Lawrence of Arabia style desert vistas, glacial vistas, etc...


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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 3 2018, 4:24pm

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Far Harad, Forodwaith and the like are interesting to me. I want some Lawrence of Arabia style desert vistas, glacial vistas, etc...


In Tolkien's legendarium Aragorn probably didn't visit Far Harad until sometime after the year 2980 (we do know about the raid on the Corsair fleet at Umbar, just before he left the service of Ecthelion of Gondor), though this could have happened years earlier in the film-continuity. On the other hand, Aragorn could conceivably found a reason to journey to the Ice Bay of Forochel and encounter the Lossoth people during his early travels.

"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison

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Thor 'n' Oakenshield
Lorien

Dec 3 2018, 4:40pm

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I'd love to see the Lossoth people!

"Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back. But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy. Now I have taken my worst wound in this parting, even if I were to go this night straight to the Dark Lord."


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 8 2018, 4:31pm

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I'm sure we will get brief looks at Aragorn as an infant and/or toddler (he is two years old when his father Arathorn II is slain). My speculation is that the show will alternate between Aragorn in his twenties or thirties and his youth in Rivendell, perhaps both as a pre-adolescent and as a teen.

Thoughts?

"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison


Chen G.
Lorien

Dec 8 2018, 5:18pm

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There's lots of nonlinearity in the films. It makes sense that a series will follow in those steps.

 
 

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