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Hey, where is Aiglos these days, anyhow?

uncle Iorlas

Nov 16, 5:17am

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Hey, where is Aiglos these days, anyhow? Can't Post

Does Elrond have it in a broom closet or what?


Nov 16, 11:19am

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Take a left at the largest stone troll [In reply to] Can't Post

Three caves down, you can't miss it (even if Thorin's company did).

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Nov 16, 3:53pm

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Do you suppose it was broken like Narsil was? [In reply to] Can't Post

At the Council of Elrond, he skips over its fate:

‘I was the herald of Gil-galad and marched with his host. I was at the Battle of Dagorlad before the Black Gate of Mordor, where we had the mastery: for the Spear of Gil-galad and the Sword of Elendil, Aeglos and Narsil, none could withstand. I beheld the last combat on the slopes of Orodruin, where Gil-galad died, and Elendil fell, and Narsil broke beneath him; but Sauron himself was overthrown, and Isildur cut the Ring from his hand with the hilt-shard of his father’s sword, and took it for his own.’

Broken or not, it probably is in a broom closet.

But here's one for you: how could Narsil's shard cut the One Ring from Sauron's hand but not be destroyed, whereas Strider says of the Witch-King:

all blades perish that pierce that dreadful King.

So Narsil can pierce Sauron and Glamdring can hew the Balrog (and Fingolfin's sword could repeatedly stab Morgoth), but a sword used on a lesser being like the Witch-king will always perish. Why is that?


Nov 16, 6:31pm

Post #4 of 11 (715 views)
You see, what Aragorn meant by "all blades" [In reply to] Can't Post

was actually all non-magical unnamed weapons. Magical weapons with names get a saving throw.

They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107


Nov 16, 10:48pm

Post #5 of 11 (689 views)
So when Merry stabbed the Witch-king with a magical blade [In reply to] Can't Post

its warranty wasn't covered because it was unnamed? You did word that carefully!

For some reason I wish Frodo had stabbed the Witch-king with Sting somewhere in the story, because I like Sting, and it's magical and has a name (well, named by Bilbo, though it doesn't have a proper Elven name, so maybe that doesn't count).


Nov 17, 12:39pm

Post #6 of 11 (634 views)
I like that Bilbo named Sting [In reply to] Can't Post

I like to believe that even though it was an unnamed Elven blade, the fact that Bilbo named it Sting gave it some Hobbit magic instead. As Francis Bacon said there's power in naming things.


Nov 18, 9:24pm

Post #7 of 11 (575 views)
I think it says something [In reply to] Can't Post

that neither Gandalf nor the Elves ever felt the name to rename Sting with a real Elven name for Bilbo's sake, which makes me think that its name was valid enough as is.

Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Nov 25, 11:41pm

Post #8 of 11 (438 views)
I've thought this one before [In reply to] Can't Post

And that it is quite strange that so much is made of Isildur's sword but Gil-Galard's spear was never mentioned again in deeds of the third age. And it would have been a powerful weapon for someone to have!

No One in Particular

Nov 26, 1:30am

Post #9 of 11 (436 views)
I have [In reply to] Can't Post

always assumed that it was destroyed when Gil-Galad fell.

While you live, shine
Have no grief at all
Life exists only for a short while
And time demands an end.
Seikilos Epitaph


Nov 26, 11:23am

Post #10 of 11 (432 views)
Curtain rod [In reply to] Can't Post

Arwen's shower curtain to be specific.

"Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!"
"Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in
thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond
all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled
mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye."
"Do what you will; but I will hinder it, if I may."
"Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!"
"But no living man am I! I am Eowyn, daughter of Theodwyn!"
"Er, really? My mother's name was Theodwyn, too!"
"No way!"
"Wow! Let's stop fighting and be best friends!"

-Zack Snyder's The Return of the King

Thor 'n' Oakenshield

Nov 26, 10:46pm

Post #11 of 11 (411 views)
I assume Elrond has it [In reply to] Can't Post

And probably wielded it in battle in the Third Age against Angmar.

"Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back. But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy. Now I have taken my worst wound in this parting, even if I were to go this night straight to the Dark Lord."


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