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If Angmar were established during the second age.

Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Nov 6, 10:38pm

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How would Numenor dealt with it? Can Numenor alone destroy Angmar and the Witch-King?


CuriousG
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Nov 8, 1:04am

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Early Numenor wasn't a great military power, but I think later (yes, that's vague; let's say "mid-life") Numenor could have. It seems pretty clear when Gondor finally gets around to sending an expedition to save Arnor, it didn't take much to defeat Angmar, just "a small sending-force of the whole might of Gondor." Defeating Angmar wouldn't have required an army as big as the one Ar-Pharazon summoned to confront Sauron.


Thor 'n' Oakenshield
Lorien

Nov 8, 1:11am

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Which was, of course, mustered in Imladris. Having such a large, powerful kingdom on the northern borders might have prevented Gil-galad from gathering as many forces to him in Imladris. I suppose Numenor could have dealt with it, but I think the fight would have been savage and brutal. Gil-galad's response to such a threat, more immediate and pressing to him than to Numenor, seems most interesting to me. If Angmar were established early in the Second Age, it might have also prevented the renaissance in Eregion, and could have changed Middle-earth's history in many, many ways.

"Torment in the dark was the danger that I feared, and it did not hold me back. But I would not have come, had I known the danger of light and joy. Now I have taken my worst wound in this parting, even if I were to go this night straight to the Dark Lord."


Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Nov 8, 3:38pm

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But wasn't the early years of Numenor were descendants of the First House of Men? They fought with Morgoth and his forces and could hold their grounds ocassionally. Morgoth's forces were worse foes than Angmar.


CuriousG
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Nov 8, 6:46pm

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But there weren't many left by the time that Morgoth was defeated, and when they went to Numenor, they didn't exactly breed like rabbits: "their numbers increased only slowly in that land." (from the Akallabeth)

From Unfinished Tales' chronology, it took the Edain 600 years before they sent ships back to Middle-earth--not exactly an expansionistic society from the get-go.

 
 

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