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"He is the greatest off-stage character of any 20th century villain."

N.E. Brigand
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Nov 4, 5:19am

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"He is the greatest off-stage character of any 20th century villain." Can't Post

Just came across this quote somewhere online, used to describe a notable antagonist in a series of novels. Naturally I thought of Sauron in The Lord of the Rings. What other villains, from the fiction of any century (page, stage, screen, whatever), would you put in that class?


Treachery, treachery I fear; treachery of that miserable creature.

But so it must be. Let us remember that a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend.


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Dunadan of North Arnor
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Nov 4, 11:59am

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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 4, 1:28pm

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Out of curiousity... [In reply to] Can't Post

...to what character and book(s) was the quote originally referring?

"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison

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Nov 4, 6:30pm

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N.E. Brigand
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Nov 6, 5:24am

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"Karla" in John Le Carre's novels. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Treachery, treachery I fear; treachery of that miserable creature.

But so it must be. Let us remember that a traitor may betray himself and do good that he does not intend.


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Nov 9, 8:16am

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Big Brother from ď1984Ē, or The Beast from LOTF? [In reply to] Can't Post

A tie, I think; though it might depend on what kind of character can be called Ďa villainí. In the final with Sauron Iíd put these two, each with some similarities to him:

Big Brother in George Orwell 1984:
Big Brother Is a celebrity autocrat as omnipresent on TV screens etc. as Sauronís Red Eye. But I donít remember an actual man who is Big Brother appearing in person, and that makes him more sinister.

The Beast in William Golding Lord Of The Flies:
A group of boys is stranded on an Island and think thereís a monster there (The Beast). There probably isnít an actual physical monster, but the belief in it, and one character promising to protect the others from it, plays a role in the breakdown of the boysí civilisation.

These two books come from much the same time as LOTR (the book). Maybe, just after the chaos caused by Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Mao... there was a lot of interest about the easy with which a mixture of fear and fantasy can be used to control peoples behaviour.

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Nuradar
Rohan


Nov 16, 8:23pm

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Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter [In reply to] Can't Post

She is one of the best villains that I can think of.

A close second is King Joffrey Baratheon from Game of Thrones.

 
 

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