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Middle-earth Conspiracy Theories: What was the real reason why Saruman refused to let Gandalf leave Orthanc? /

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Aug 7 2018, 5:06am

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Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.

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Aug 7 2018, 12:18pm

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It was his turn to pay for the pizza. // [In reply to] Can't Post



Aug 7 2018, 2:36pm

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Saruman had to delay Gandalf so as to not ruin his surprise party. // [In reply to] Can't Post


"For a brief time I was here; and for a brief time I mattered." - Harlan Ellison


Aug 7 2018, 3:41pm

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Friends don't let friends ride after enjoying the halflings' leaf // [In reply to] Can't Post



We have been there and back again.

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Aug 9 2018, 11:11pm

Post #5 of 12 (1690 views)
Jealousy! He knew Gandalf was due a promotion to ‘White’, skipping over ‘Brown’, ‘Blue, and ‘Green’. [In reply to] Can't Post


‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor

Tol Eressea

Aug 10 2018, 3:36am

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His spies told him that Gandalf, the Moths and the Eagles were setting up [In reply to] Can't Post

Space Force. Shocked


Aug 11 2018, 7:21am

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Wuv, twu wuv. / [In reply to] Can't Post


"Mister Frodo, hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good frying pan at your side. I’ve been from one side of this garden to the other, I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen anything to make me believe there's one all-powerful Providence controlling everything. There's no Music of the Ainur that controls my destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense."
-LOTR IV: A New Estel


Aug 12 2018, 2:25pm

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But no mawage :( // [In reply to] Can't Post



We have been there and back again.

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Aug 13 2018, 3:26pm

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Because he needed a second retinal scan to unlock alpha level clearance on the Palantir // [In reply to] Can't Post



Aug 13 2018, 7:24pm

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He didn’t. [In reply to] Can't Post

Gandalf was a drama queen who made up the whole story to gain attention at the Council of Elrond. Sooner or later, you TORNsibs will realize Gandalf was a fraud, the whole Balrog fight was a ruse, and Saruman was the true hero of LOTR. I’m so tired of victors writing history and getting away with it. :)


Aug 14 2018, 12:40am

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Gandalf join me! Err, join US! [In reply to] Can't Post

"Torn between two lovers, feelin' like a fool
Lovin' both of you is breakin' all the rules"

Mari D.

Aug 18 2018, 12:12am

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They had just painted the long winding staircase together and the paint had not yet dried. That's why you don't start in the middle and split up from there. [In reply to] Can't Post

Gandalf: We painted it in grey, so I don't care, I can walk right through it and come down.Saruman: Noo, you don't!


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