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Gandalf's glyph

dlnewhouse
The Shire


Jul 21, 9:09pm

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Is there religious significance to Gandalf's glyph in Arda?


noWizardme
Valinor


Jul 22, 7:05am

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So at one level (perhaps the only level?) It’s a monogram, Gandalf initialling stuff. My sense is that this is how it’s used on his fireworks, as his hasty clue left on Weathertop, and to initial his PS comments in his letter to Frodo.

Religion is a bit of an odd thing in Middle-earth. We don’t read of temples or organised rites. The nearest is the elves in the Hall of Fire singing a song about Elbereth, but I can see that as either like some Catholics singing a hymn, or like some Irish people singing Danny Boy (Danny Boy not, I think being a god).

On the other hand, you might meet in Middle-Earth creatures who have personally met and talked to the Valar.

So, in short- I don’t think any religious significance can be deduced from the text. Of course that doesn’t mean it can’t be implied, but that’s something the reader is doing to the text.

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jul 31, 5:14pm

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may have a religious connotation?

Probably not meant to specifically. Just Tolkien waxing eloquently as is his wont perhaps.
And as you say likely simply ‘something the reader is doing to the text’.


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‘We look toward Númenor that was, and beyond to Elvenhome that is, and to that which is beyond Elvenhome and will ever be.’
-Faramir
-TT; Window on the West


‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




noWizardme
Valinor


Jul 31, 6:03pm

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Hello BG my old friend
You've come to talk with us again
Because of questions about Gandalf's Glyph.
I hope you're feeling well, not sore or stiff.
But the questions you have planted in my brain
Still remain
About the standing silence..

Hmm - I'm not sure that effort's Art (or even Paul) - but I think you're right the standing silence seems pretty like an observance to me!

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Where's that old read-through discussion?
A wonderful list of links to previous chapters in the 2014-2016 LOTR read-through (and to previous read-throughs) is curated by our very own 'squire' here http://users.bestweb.net/...-SixthDiscussion.htm

 
 

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