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Today in Middle-earth

May 5, 2942 (S.R. 1342)
1. Bilbo finds rest in Rivendell.
(determined from text)
..."Weariness fell from him soon in that house, and he had many a merry jest and dance, early and late, with the elves of the valley. Yet even that place could not long delay him now, and he thought always of his own home."

May 5, 3019 (S.R. 1419)
1. The glad days of Gondor.
(not from the appendices)
..."In the days that followed the King sat on his throne in the Hall of the Kings... ...And last of all Aragorn greeted Éomer of Rohan, and they embraced, and Aragorn said: 'Between us there can be no word of giving or taking, nor of reward; for we are brethren. In happy hour did Eorl ride from the North, and never has any league of peoples been more blessed, so that neither has ever failed the other, nor shall fail. Now... ...we have laid Théoden the Renowned in a tomb in the Hallows, and there he shall lie forever among the Kings of Gondor, if you will. Or if you desire it, we will come to Rohan and bring him back to rest with his own people.'
...And Éomer answered: 'Since the day when you rose before me out of the green grass of the downs I have loved you, and that love shall not fail. But now I must depart for a while to my own realm, where there is much to heal and set in order.... ...when all is made ready we will return for him; but here let him sleep a while.'
...And Éowyn said to Faramir: 'Now I must go back to my own land and look on it once again, and help my brother in his labour; but when one whom I long loved as father is laid at last to rest, I will return.'"




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This is a Book Spoiler showing Pippin as a spectator and his first glimpse of Faramir... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

The Return of the King: The Siege of Gondor


..."Pippin watched, and he saw the horseman and the White Rider meet and halt, waiting for those on foot. Men now hurried out to them from the City; and soon they all passed from sight under the outer wall… …he knew that they were entering the Gate… …he hurried to the entrance of the citadel. There he was joined by many others who had watched the race and the rescue from the high walls.
... It was not long before a clamour was heard in the streets leading up from the outer circles, and there was much cheering and crying of the names of Faramir and Mithrandir. Presently Pippin saw torches, and… …two horsemen riding slowly: one was in white but shining no longer, pale in the twilight as if his fire was spent or veiled; the others was dark and his head was bowed. They dismounted… …they walked forward to the sentinel at the gate: Gandalf steadily, his grey cloak flung back, and a fire still smouldering in his eyes; the other, clad all in green, slowly, swaying a little as a weary or a wounded man.
... Pippin pressed forward… …and when he saw the pale face of Faramir he caught his breath. It was the face of one who has been assailed by a great fear or anguish, but has mastered it and now is quiet. Proud and grave he stood for a moment as he spoke to the gua, and Pippin gazing at him saw how closely he resembled his brother Boromir… …Yet suddenly for Faramir his heart was strangely moved with a feeling that he had not known before. Here was one with an air of high nobility such as Aragorn… …revealed, less high perhaps, yet also less incalculable and remote: one of the Kings of Men born into a later time, but touched with the wisdom and sadness of the Eldar Race. He knew now why Beregond spoke his name with love. He was a captain that men would follow, that he would follow, even under the shadow the black wings.
... 'Faramir!' he cried aloud with the others. 'Faramir!' And Faramir, catching his strange voice among the clamour of the men of the City, turned and looked down at him and was amazed.
... 'Whence come you? …A halfling, and in the livery of the Tower! Whence...?'
... But with that Gandalf stepped to his side and spoke. 'He came with me from the land of the Halflings… …He came with me, but let us not tarry here. There is much to say and to do, and you are weary. He shall come with us. Indeed he must, for if he does not forget his new duties more easily than I do, he must attend on his lord again within this hour. Come, Pippin, follow us!'"




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Here's a Book Spoiler that compares an event in The Hobbit Book with the film… for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Out of the Frying-Pan Into the Fire: The Hobbit


... "Bilbo had escaped the goblins... ...the sun began to sink westwards...
... ...He still wandered on, out of the little high valley, over its edge, and down the slopes beyond... ...when he heard voices.
... He stopped and listened. It did not sound like goblins; so he crept forward carefully. He was on a stony path winding downwards with a rocky wall on the left hand; on the other side the ground sloped away and there were dells below the level of the path overhung with bushes and low trees. In one of these dells under the bushes people were talking.
... He crept still nearer... ...He could have clapped and shouted for joy, but he did not. He had still got the ring on, for fear of meeting something unexpected and unpleasant...
... "...I will give them all a surprise," he thought, as he crawled into the bushes at the edge of the dell. Gandalf was arguing with the dwarves. They were discussing all that had happened to them in the tunnels, and wondering and debating what they were to do now. The dwarves were grumbling, and Gandalf was saying that they could not possibly go on with their journey leaving Mr. Baggins in the hand of the goblins, without trying to find out if he was alive or dead, and without trying to rescue him.
... "After all he is my friend," said the wiza, "and not a bad little chap. I feel responsible for him. I wish to goodness you had not lost him."
... The dwarves wanted to know why he had ever been brought at all, why he could not stick to his friends and come along with them, and why the wizard had not chosen someone with more sense. "He has been more trouble than use so far," said one. "If we have got to go back now into those abominable tunnels to look for him, then drat him, I say."
... Gandalf answered angrily: "I brought him, and I don't bring things that are of no use. Either you help me to look for him, or I go and leave you here to get out of the mess as best you can yourselves. If we can only find him again, you will thank me before all is over. Whatever did you want to go and drop him for, Dori?"
... "You would have dropped him," said Dori, 'if a goblin had suddenly grabbed your leg from behind in the dark, tripped up your feet, and kicked you in the back...!"
... "Then why didn't you pick him up again?"
... "Good heavens! Can you ask? Goblins fighting and biting in the dark, everybody falling over bodies and hitting one another! You nearly chopped off my head with Glamdring, and Thorin was stabbing here there and everywhere with Orcrist. All of a sudden you gave one of your blinding flashes, and we saw the goblins running back yelping. You shouted 'follow me everybody!' and everybody ought to have followed. We thought everybody had. There was no time to count, as you know quite well, till we had dashed through the gate-guards, out of the lower door, and helter-skelter down here. And here we are—without the burglar, confusticate him!"
... "And here's the burglar!" said Bilbo stepping down into the middle of them, and slipping off the ring.
... Bless me, how they jumped! Then they shouted with surprise and delight. Gandalf was as astonished as any of them, but probably more pleased than all the others... ...It is a fact that Bilbo's reputation went up a very great deal with the dwarves after this. If they had still doubted that he was really a first-class burglar, in spite of Gandalf's words, they doubted no longer...
... "What did I tell you?" said Gandalf laughing. "Mr. Baggins has more about him than you guess." He gave Bilbo a queer look from under his bushy eyebrows..."




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May 8, 10:27am

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Today in Middle-earth

May 8, 2942 (S.R. 1342)
(from Karen Wynn Fonstad, The Atlas of Middle-earth)
1. Gandalf and Bilbo leave Rivendell for Hobbiton.
..."[Bilbo] said farewell to Elrond, and giving him such small gifts as he would accept, he rode away with Gandalf.
...Even as they left the valley the sky darkened in the West... ...and wind and rain came up to meet them.
..."Merry is May-time!" said Bilbo, as the rain beat into his face. "But our back is to legends and we are coming home. I suppose this is a first taste of it."
..."There is a long road yet," said Gandalf.
..."But it is the last road," said Bilbo.
...They came to the river that marked the very edge of the borderland of the Wild, and to the ford beneath the steep bank... ...The water was swollen both with the melting of the snows at the approach of summer, and with the daylong rain; but they crossed with some difficulty, and pressed forward, as evening fell, on the last stage of their journey."


May 8, 3019 (S.R. 1419)
1. Éomer and Éowyn depart for Rohan with the sons of Elrond.
(from the appendices)
..."So the glad days passed; and the Riders of Rohan made ready, and rode away by the North-way; and it was lined with people to do them honour and praise them, from the Gate of the City to the walls of the Pelennor.... ...in the City there was labour of many willing hands to rebuild and renew and to remove all the scars of war and the memory of the darkness.
...The Hobbits still remained in Minas Tirith, with Legolas and Gimli; for Aragorn was loth for the Fellowship to be dissolved. 'At last all such things must end,' he said, 'but I should have you wait a little while longer... ...A day draws near that I have looked for in all the years of my manhood, and when it comes I would have my friends beside me.' But of that day he would say no more.
...In those days the Companions of the Ring dwelt together in a fair house with Gandalf, and they went to and fro as they wished. And Frodo said to Gandalf: 'Do you know what this day is that Aragorn speaks of? For we are happy here... ...but the days are running away, and Bilbo is waiting; and the Shire is my home.'
...'As for Bilbo... ...he is waiting for the same day, and he knows what keeps you. And as for the passing of the days, it is now only May and high summer is not yet in; and though all things may seem changed, as if an age of the world had gone by, yet to the trees and the grass it is less than a year since you set out.'"




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May 8, 5:14pm

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(Suggestions would make a good game for us :)

I'm guessing a home-baked seed cake...

Gramma, it's interesting how both day's excerpts are about returning home....and how it may take longer than you wish.


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May 8, 8:28pm

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The Troll-cave had at least three Elvish blades with origins in Gondolin. Perhaps it had some other small artifacts from Beleriand as well.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock


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May 8, 9:41pm

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There must have been ooodles of battered jools and coins from playing bed for a giant worm.

So May 8th is a good day to go home :D Well caught!

This line always makes me sad.


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...but the days are running away, and Bilbo is waiting; and the Shire is my home.


Frodo is still believing he can go home to Bilbo AND the Shire.




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May 8, 10:15pm

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Bilbo, too, was wrong that this road was the last road, though for Bilbo that did not turn out to be sad. Maybe not for Frodo too, if he really ended up healed. We just have to take that part on faith.


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May 8, 10:16pm

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Maybe some toy or trinket of Earendil's, or some other family memento. That's a really nice idea.


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May 9, 10:29am

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Today in Middle-earth

May 9-?, 2941 (S.R. 1341)
1. Bilbo's adventure is already getting old.
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..."...the party went along very merrily, and they told stories or sang songs as they rode forward all day, except of course when they stopped for meals. These didn't come quite as often as Bilbo would have liked them, but still he began to feel that adventures were not so bad after all.
...At first they had passed through hobbit-lands, a wild respectable country inhabited by decent folk, with good roads, and inn or two, and now and then a dwarf or a farmer ambling by on business. Then they came to lands where people spoke strangely, and sang songs Bilbo had never heard before."




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May 9, 2:30pm

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The distance from the Green Dragon to the Brandywine Bridge was about 50 miles. The company might have eaten at the All-welcome Inn at Frogmorton (according to Tolkien's uncompleted 1960 revision) and stopped for the night at the village of Whitfurrows before crossing the Brandywine Bridge (lunch at the Bridge Inn?) early on their second day of travel. They would have needed to stop for the night at least once before reaching Bree (and doubtless the Prancing Pony); there was likely an inn located at the midpoint between the Brandywine Bridge and Bree. It is entirely possible that the Forsaken Inn at the east-end of Bree-land was still in operation at the time of the Quest of Erebor and was probably the company's last stop in what Bilbo would have thought of as civilized lands.

Alternately, Thorin & Company might have pushed through that first day until they reached the Brandywine River, but they don't seem to have hurried much in their journey through Eriador. Either way, it probably took them three days--four at most--to reach Bree, and another to pass beyond the borders of Bree-land.

Contrast this with the return of Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin to the Shire:
- October 30: The companions leave Bree and arrive at the Brandywine Bridge at dark (they must have been riding hard).
- November 1: They are 'arrested' at Frogmorton.
- November 2: They reach Bywater and rouse the Shire.
- November 3: The Battle of Bywater.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock

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Here's part 1 of a 4-part Book Spoiler run that looks at the Shire and how the leaders and followers played nice together... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Of the Ordering of the Shire: The Fellowship of the Ring


... "The Shire was divided into four quarters, as the Farthings already referred to, North, South, East, and West; and these again each into a number of folklands, which still bore the names of some of the old leading families... ...Nearly all Tooks still lived in the Tookland, but that was not true of many other families, such as the Bagginses or the Boffins. Outside the Farthings were the East and West Marches: the Buckland and the Westmarch added to the Shire in S.R. 1462.
... The Shire at this time had hardly any 'government'. Families for the most part managed their own affairs. Growing food and eating it occupied most of their time. In other matters they were... ...generous and not greedy, but contented and moderate, so that estates, farms, workshops, and small trades tended to remain unchanged for generations.... There remained... ...the ancient tradition concerning the high king at Fornost, or Norbury as they called it, away north of the Shire. But there had been no king for nearly a thousand years, and even the ruins of Kings' Norbury were covered with grass.... ...they attributed to the king of old all their essential laws; and usually they kept the laws of free will, because they were The Rules (as they said), both ancient and just."




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May 10, 11:14am

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I will be away from my computer on Friday, so here's pt. 2. DON'T PEEK until Friday!!! ;)

This is part 2 of a 4-part Book Spoiler run that looks at the Shire and how the leaders and followers played nice together... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Of the Ordering of the Shire: The Fellowship of the Ring


... "It is true that the Took family had long been pre-eminent; for the office of Thain had passed to them (from the Oldbucks) some centuries before, and the chief Took had borne that title ever since. The Thain was the master of the Shire-moot, and captain of the Shire-muster and the Hobbitry-in-arms, but as muster and moot were only held in times of emergency, which no longer occurred, the Thain had eased to be more than a nominal dignity. The Took family was still… …accorded a special respect, for it remained both numerous and exceedingly wealthy, and was liable to produce in every generation strong characters of peculiar habits and even adventurous temperament. The latter qualities… …were now rather tolerated (in the rich) than generally approved. The custom endured, nonetheless, of referring to the head of the family as The Took, and of adding to his name, if required, a number: such as Isengrim the Second, for instance."




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May 10, 11:18am

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And it wouldn't surprise me a bit that the hobbits were anxious to get home... especially after Sam's vision at the Mirror. I'm sure he "encouraged" them to get a move on!

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And it wouldn't surprise me a bit that the hobbits were anxious to get home... especially after Sam's vision at the Mirror. I'm sure he "encouraged" them to get a move on!

Thanks for this!


I'm glad to contribute. Remember that the hobbits had other reasons to be anxious as well: Saruman's vague threats and warnings; Butterbur's news of troubles in Bree and "funny goings on" in the Shire; and Gandalf 's own warning of gates at the Brandywine Bridge.

One last comparision: In 2942 Bilbo and Gandalf left Rivendell for the Shire on May 8 and arrived at Bag End on June 22 -- a journey of 45 days. Frodo and his companions departed Rivendell on October 5, 3019, and reached Bywater on November 2 -- a much more rapid journey of 28 days. Some of that we can attribute to greater haste, but we might also factor in the idea that Tolkien had a much more vague notion of the distances involved in The Hobbit, not working out the scales in detail until he wrote The Lord of the Rings.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock


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May 10, 3:25pm

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‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




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You are a careful reader! :)


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May 13, 11:46am

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This is part 3 of a 4-part Book Spoiler run that looks at the Shire and how the leaders and followers played nice together... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Of the Ordering of the Shire: The Fellowship of the Ring


..."The only real official in the Shire at this date was the Mayor of Michel Delving… …who was elected every seven years at the Free Fair on the White Downs at the Lithe, that is at Mid-summer. As mayor almost his only duty was to preside at banquets, given on the Shire-holidays, which occurred at frequent intervals. But the offices of Postmaster and first Shirriff were attached to the mayoralty, so that he managed both the Messenger Service and the Watch. These were the only Shire-services, and the Messengers were the most numerous, and… …busier of the two. By no means all Hobbits were lettered, but those who were wrote constantly to all their friends (and a selection of their relations) who lived further off than an afternoon's walk.
... The Shirriffs was the name that the Hobbits gave to their police, or the nearest equivalent that they possessed. They had… …no uniforms (such things being quite unknown), only a feather in their caps; and they were in practice rather haywards than policemen, more concerned with the straying of beasts than of people. There were in all the Shire only twelve of them, three in each Farthing, for Inside Work. A rather large body, varying at need, was employed to 'beat the bounds', and to see that Outsiders of any kind… …did not make themselves a nuisance.
... At the time when this story begins the Bounders, as they were called, had been greatly increased."




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May 13, 11:47am

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Here's part 4 of a 4-part Book Spoiler run that looks at the Shire and how the leaders and followers played nice together... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Of the Ordering of the Shire: The Fellowship of the Ring


"…the Bounders, as they were called, had been greatly increased. There were many reports and complaints of strange persons and creatures prowling about the borders, or over them: the first sign that all was not quite as it should be, and always had been except in tales and legends of long ago. Few heeded the sign… …not even Bilbo yet had any notion of what it portended. Sixty years had passed since he set out on his memorable journey, and he was old even for Hobbits, who reached a hundred as often as not; but much evidently still remained of the considerable wealth that he had brought back. How much or how little he revealed to no one, not even to Frodo his favourite nephew. And he still kept secret the ring that he had found."




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May 13, 11:56am

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Some Book Spoilers of Middle-earth Mothers on this Mother's Day -- A blessed Mother's Day to all, past and present and all varieties!

From A Knife in the Dark: The Fellowship of the Ring
..."'From [Lúthien Tinúviel] the lineage of the Elf-lords of old descended among Men. There live still those of whom Lúthien was the foremother, and it is said that her line shall never fail. Elrond of Rivendell is of that Kin. For of Beren and Lúthien was born Dior Thingol's heir; and of him Elwing the White whom Eärendil wedded, he that sailed his ship out of the mists of the world into the seas of heaven with the Silmaril upon his brow. And of Eärendil came the Kings of Númenor, that is Westernesse.'"

From Farewell to Lórien: The Fellowship of the Ring
..."And Aragorn answered: 'Lady, you know all my desire and long held in keeping the only treasure that I seek. Yet it is not yours to give me, even if you would; and only through darkness shall I come to it.'
...'Yet maybe this will lighten your heart,' said Galadriel; for it was left in my care to be given to you, should you pass through this land.' Then she lifted from her lap a great stone of a clear green, set in a silver brooch that was wrought in the likeness of an eagle with outspread wings; and as she held it up the gem flashed like the sun shining through the leaves of spring. 'This stone I gave to Celebrían my daughter, and she to hers; and now it comes to you as a token of hope. In this hour take the name that was foretold for you, Elessar, the Elfstone of the house of Elendil!'
...Then Aragorn took the stone and pinned the brooch upon his breast, and those who saw him wondered; for they had not marked before how tall and kingly he stood, and it seemed to them that many years of toil had fallen from his shoulders. 'For the gifts that you have given me I thank you,' he said, 'O Lady of Lórien of whom were sprung Celebrían and Arwen Evenstar. What praise could I say more?'"

**Sméagol's family was of high repute, for it was large and wealthier than most, and was headed by a grandmother, stern and wise in old lore, such as they had. When Sméagol started lying and thieving, his grandmother expelled him from the family and turned him out of her hole.

Mothers of Middle-earth

Bilbo Baggins - Belladonna Took
Frodo Baggins - Primula Brandybuck
Sam Gamgee – Bell Goodchild
Pippin Took – Eglantine Banks
Merry Brandybuck – Esmeralda Took

Fatty Bolger – Rosamunda Bolger
Lotho – Lobelia [Bracegirdle] Sackville-Baggins
Drogo Baggins – Ruby Bolger
Aragorn - Gilraen

Elrond - Elwing
Arwen/Elrohir/Elladan - Celebrían
Eldarion - Arwen
Lúthien – Melian
Dior/Nimloth - Lúthien

Celebrían – Galadriel
Galadriel - Eärwen
Lúthien - Melian of Doriath
Faramir/Boromir - Finduilas
Elboron - Éowyn

Rose Cotton – Lily Brown
...Rosie Cotton is Mother to Elanor the Fair, Frodo Gardner, Rose, Merry, Pippin, Goldilocks, Hamfast, Daisy, Primrose, Bilbo, Ruby, Robin, Tolman (Tom)
Dis (Thorin's sister) – Fili and Kili




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May 14, 11:29am

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Here's a Book Spoiler that looks at a BTFE (Book-To-Film Event)! of a DOS comparison. The dwarves start a decision by committee... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Inside Information: The Hobbit


... "They debated long on what was to be done, but they could think of no way of getting rid of Smaug—which had always been a weak point in their plans, as Bilbo felt inclined to point out. Then... ...thoroughly perplexe... ...they began to grumble at the hobbit, blaming him for what had at first so pleased them: for bringing away a cup and stirring up Smaug's wrath so soon.
... "What else do you suppose a burglar is to do... ...I was not engaged to kill dragons, that is warrior's work, but to steal treasure... ...Did you expect me to trot back with the whole hoard of Thror on my back? If there is any grumbling to be done, I think I might have a say. You ought to have brought five hundred burglars not one. I am sure it reflects great credit on your grandfather, but you cannot pretend that you ever made the vast extent of his wealth clear to me. I should want hundreds of years to bring it all up, if I was fifty times as big, and Smaug as tame as a rabbit.""




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May 15, 11:09am

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Here's another Book Spoiler of a BTFE (Book-To-Film Event)! of a DOS comparison. The Dwarves scramble to apologize for offering the Hobbit sauce (as Sam would put it) and proposes a plan... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Inside Information: The Hobbit


... "The dwarves begged his pardon. "What then do you propose we should do, Mr. Baggins?" asked Thorin politely.
... "I have no idea at the moment—if you mean about removing the treasure. That obviously depends entirely on some new turn of luck and the getting rid of Smaug. Getting rid of dragons is not at all in my line, but I will do my best to think about it. Personally I have no hopes at all, and wish I was safe back at home..."
... "...if you really want my advice, I would say we can do nothing but stay where we are. By day we can... ...creep out safely enough to take the air… …But in the meanwhile everyone ought to be well inside the tunnel by night.
... "Now I will make you an offer. I have got my ring and will creep down this very noon—then if ever Smaug ought to be napping—and see what he is up to. Perhaps something will turn up. 'Every worm has his weak spot,' as my father used to say though… …not from personal experience.
... Naturally the dwarves accepted the offer eagerly. Already they had come to respect little Bilbo. Now he had become the real leader in their adventure. He had begun to have ideas and plans of his own. When midday came he got ready for another journey down into the Mountain. He did not like it of course, but it was not so bad now he knew… …what was in front of him. Had he known more about dragons and their wily ways, he might have been more frightened and less hopeful of catching this one napping."
... The sun was shining when he started, but it was as dark as night in the tunne… …So silent was his going that smoke on a gentle wind could hardly have surpassed it, and he was inclined to feel a bit proud of himself as he drew near the lower door. There was only the very faintest glow to be seen.
... "Old Smaug is weary and asleep," he thought. "He can't see me and he won't hear me…" …He had forgotten or had never heard about dragons' sense of smell. It is also an awkward fact that they keep half an eye open watching while they sleep, if they are suspicious.
... Smaug certainly looked fast asleep, almost dead and dark, with scarcely a snore more than a whiff of unseen steam, when Bilbo peeped once more from the entrance. He was just about to step out on to the floor when he caught a sudden thin and piercing ray of red from under the drooping lid of Smaug's left eye. He was only pretending to sleep! He was watching the tunnel entrance! Hurriedly Bilbo stepped back and blessed the luck of his ring. Then Smaug spoke.
... "Well, thief! I smell you and I feel your air. I hear your breath. Come along! Help yourself again, there is plenty and to spare!""




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May 16, 11:59am

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Today in Middle-earth

May 16, 2941 (S.R. 1341)
1. The Company passes Amon Sûl.
(determined from text - referencing Karen Wynn Fonstad, The Atlas of Middle-earth)
..."Bilbo and Company follow the road that continues northeast past Weathertop and reaches the southeastern foot where they come to the last foothill below and camp at its foot."

~~Now here's a Book Spoiler that takes a look at Amon Sûl/Weathertop... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Strider: The Fellowship of the Ring


..."'Weathertop?' said Sam. 'What's that?'
...'It is a hill, just to the north of the Road, about halfway from here to Rivendell. It commands a wide view all round; and there we shall have a chance to look about us...
...'...There is no barrow on Weathertop, nor on any of these hills,' answered Strider. 'The Men of the West did not live here; though in their latter days they defended the hills for a while against the evil that came out of Angmar. This path was made to serve the forts along the walls... ...in the first days of the North Kingdom, they built a great watch-tower on Weathertop. Amon Sûl they called it. It was burned and broken, and nothing remains of it now but a tumbled ring, like a rough crown on the old hill's head. Yet once it was tall and fair. It is told that Elendil stood there watching for the coming of Gil-galad out of the West, in the days of the Last Alliance.'"

May 16, 2001
1. Cannes Film Festival has first look at Middle-earth.
... Peter Jackson introduces a 24-minute presentation at the Cannes Film Festival. The preview of Jackson's adaptation of J.R.R. Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings features a completed sequence from the Mines of Moria (as the Fellowship enters the Great Hall to just before the Balrog appears), and a brief glimpse at footage from other scenes of the trilogy. Jaded industry representatives are reportedly blown away by what they see.




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Today in Middle-earth

May 17, 2941 (S.R. 1341)
1. The Company continues northeast on the road, dropping slowly into the 'Lone-lands'.
(determined from text - referencing Karen Wynn Fonstad, The Atlas of Middle-earth)
..."...they had gone on far into the Lone-lands, where there were no people left, no inns, and the roads grew steadily worse. Not far ahead were dreary hills, rising higher and higher, dark with trees. On some of them were old castles with an evil look, as if they had been built by wicked people. Everything seemed gloomy, for the weather that day had taken a nasty turn."




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This Book Spoiler looks at the delivery of Dwarves, Hobbit and Wizard that appeared in the film... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From Out of the Frying-Pan Into the Fire and Queer Lodgings: The Hobbit


"[Bilbo]was allowed to climb on to an eagle's back and cling between his wings. The air rushed over him and he shut his eyes... ...as off rose fifteen great birds from the mountain’s side. The sun was still close to the eastern edge of things. The morning was cool, and mists were in the valleys and hollows... ...Bilbo opened an eye to peep and saw that the birds were already high up and the world was far away, and the mountains were falling back behind them into the distance. He shut his eyes again and held on tighter.
"Don’t pinch!" said the eagle. "You need not be frightened like a rabbit, even if you look rather like one. It is a fair morning with little wind. What is finer than flying?"
Bilbo would have liked to say: "A warm bath and late breakfast on the lawn afterwards;" but he thought it better to say nothing at all...
...After a good while the eagles must have seen the point they were making for, even from their great height, for they began to go down circling round in great spirals. They did this for a long while, and at last the hobbit opened his eyes again. The earth was much nearer, and below them were trees... ...and wide grass lands, and a river running through it all. But cropping out of the ground, right in the path of the stream which looped itself about it, was a great rock, almost a hill of stone, like a last outpost of the distant mountains, or a huge piece cast miles into the plain by some giant of giants.
Quickly now to the top of this rock the eagles swooped one by one and set down their passengers.
"Farewell!" they cried, "wherever you fare, till your eyries receive you at the journey’s end!" That is the polite thing to say among eagles.
"May the wind under your wings bear you where the sun sails and the moon walks," answered Gandalf, who knew the correct reply...
...There was a flat space on the top of the hill of stone and a well worn path with many steps leading down it to the river, across which a ford of huge flat stones led to the grass-land beyond the stream. There was a little cave (a wholesome one with a pebbly floor) at the foot of the steps and near the end of the stony ford. Here the party gathered and discussed what was to be done."




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