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The Army of the Dead- Movie vs Books

Tolkien R.J.J
The Shire


Apr 29, 12:57pm

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The Army of the Dead- Movie vs Books Can't Post

 
So i read a great essay on the army of the dead found here.


Answerer: can the Dead Men (Army of the Dead) kill people?
https://terpconnect.umd.edu/~jkeener/tolkien/deadmen.html

"There has been considerable pushback from book fans to the depiction of the Dead Men as an essentially invincible force. To be clear, there is nothing in the books to suggest that the Dead had the ability to slaughter tens of thousands of soldiers in a matter of minutes. "

So what are everyone thoughts, did the movies portray the army of the dead in a lore accurate manner [besides them fighting at the battle of the pelennor fields] or did they overpower them for movie effects.

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Otaku-sempai
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Apr 29, 1:43pm

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Was the Grey Host portrayed accurately? Not so much. [In reply to] Can't Post

At Linhir:

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'But defenders and foes alike gave up the battle and fled when we came, crying out that the King of the Dead was upon them. Only Angbor, Lord of Lamedon, had the heart to abide us; and Aragorn bade him gather his folk and come behind, if they dared, when the Grey Host had passed.'


And at Pelargir:

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''To every ship they came that was drawn up, and then they passed over the water to those that were anchored; and all the mariners were filled with a madness of terror and leaped overboard, save the slaves chained to the oars. Reckless we rode among our fleeing foes, driving them like leaves, until we came to the shore. And then to each of the great ships that remained Aragorn sent one of the Dúnedain, and they comforted the captives that were aboard, and bade them put aside fear and be free.

'Ere that dark day ended none of the enemy were left to resist us all were drowned, or were flying south in the hope to find their own lands upon foot. Strange and wonderful I thought it that the designs of Mordor should be overthrown by such wraiths of fear and darkness. With its own weapons was it worsted!'


In the books, the weapons of the Army of the Dead were fear and terror. They seemed to have no physical ability to do harm.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock

 
 

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