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Middle-earth Conspiracy Theories

Darkstone
Immortal


Mar 16, 3:33pm

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They say it is the first step that costs the effort. I do not find it so. I am sure I could write unlimited 'first chapters'. I have indeed written many.
-Letter #23

So what Middle-earth stories did Tolkien begin that he later thought better of?

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"Now the Star-bellied Elves had bellies with stars. The Plain-bellied Dwarves had none upon thars."




Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Mar 16, 4:01pm

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"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock


NottaSackville
Tol Eressea

Mar 16, 4:11pm

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Happiness: money matters, but less than we think and not in the way that we think. Family is important and so are friends, while envy is toxic -- and so is excessive thinking. Beaches are optional. Trust is not. Neither is gratitude. - The Geography of Bliss by Eric Weiner as summarized by Lily Fairbairn. And a bit of the Hobbit reading thrown in never hurts. - NottaSackville


NottaSackville
Tol Eressea

Mar 16, 4:14pm

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Happiness: money matters, but less than we think and not in the way that we think. Family is important and so are friends, while envy is toxic -- and so is excessive thinking. Beaches are optional. Trust is not. Neither is gratitude. - The Geography of Bliss by Eric Weiner as summarized by Lily Fairbairn. And a bit of the Hobbit reading thrown in never hurts. - NottaSackville


Attalus
Lorien


Mar 16, 6:54pm

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I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall, but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governors like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow but it would have been just that. Not worth doing.
J.R.R. Tolkien


We are the fighting Uruk-Hai! We slew the great warrior! Well, yeah, first he killed a bunch of us and another whole lot of Mauhr's lads, and we had to shoot enough arrows into him to drop a Mmak. But we got him!

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Mar 16, 7:11pm

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. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




squire
Half-elven


Mar 16, 9:04pm

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L. Ron Halfelven
Grey Havens


Mar 16, 9:48pm

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And Rose drew him in, and set him on the harpsichord bench, and put little Wilhelm Friedemann upon his lap.

He began composing a fugue. 'Well, I'm Bach,' he said.


Meneldor
Valinor


Mar 17, 12:49pm

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Book 1 of the Lord of the Stones


They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107


Attalus
Lorien


Mar 17, 10:16pm

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Did owyn or did she not sneak into Aragorn's tent before he entered the Paths of the Dead? A tell-all saga by a bard of Rohan.

We are the fighting Uruk-Hai! We slew the great warrior! Well, yeah, first he killed a bunch of us and another whole lot of Mauhr's lads, and we had to shoot enough arrows into him to drop a Mmak. But we got him!


sador
Half-elven


Mar 18, 8:40pm

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But it was too absurd. And he just couldn't write ridiculous enough poetry.


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Mar 18, 9:04pm

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"A Tale of Two Towers". [In reply to] Can't Post

Attempted 10 times, as he tried to craft a story about the events between two of the five populated places to the east of the Misty Mountains (Dol Guldur, Minas Tirith, Minas Anor, Orthanc, Barad-dur).


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Mar 18, 9:10pm

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"Aragorn's Travels". [In reply to] Can't Post

Which would have described his time among the Lilliputians Little People.


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


Ethel Duath
Half-elven


Mar 19, 12:44am

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sador
Half-elven


Mar 19, 3:26am

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Of Smaug the Golden and Tilda of Dale. [In reply to] Can't Post

The true and tragic story of Bard's maiden great-great-aunt.


CuriousG
Half-elven


Mar 19, 10:53am

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In a hole in some wood lived a termite...


Lissuin
Tol Eressea


Mar 19, 10:59am

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Tolkien intended to write of the many disappointments, trials and tribulations of her middle years, but also of acts of heroism and of the esteem and affection with which she was held by all of Hobbitdom at the end of her long life.

What hints were there from her childhood that the stage was being set for her remarkable place in history? The author began by recounting her many youthful escapades and then how this ambitious, fiery girl from Hardbottle married into the prominent Sackville-Baggins clan, bringing her into the swirl of events which concluded the Third Age.

In our own Age, this irrepressible Miss would no doubt have a Multi-Book-Series dedicated to her exploits followed by, at the very least, a trilogy of action films. At the time, the author considered his feisty creation worthy of, at the very least, her own novel, but his publishers read the first chapter and declared her "much much too unladylike for our readers" and refused to advance him a penny on it. Times being what they were, he focused on her husband's unprepossessing cousins Bilbo and Frodo and did manage to make something of them in the end. Tolkien retained a soft spot for his heroine, however, finding a place for her in the Shire but having to bear the indignities to her reputation after the editors had their way with her.

Sad but too true. Evil


dernwyn
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Mar 19, 11:35am

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Yes, such a shame, isn't it! [In reply to] Can't Post

And thus he never was able to expand on "Little Hobbit Women", his story of the three Remarkable Daughters of the Old Took, and its sequel, "Belladonna's Adventures in Elven-lands".


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


Lissuin
Tol Eressea


Mar 19, 6:07pm

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How Lobelia Got Her Groove Back. I'd read that, wouldn't you?


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Mar 19, 8:55pm

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A very uplifting story! [In reply to] Can't Post

It pairs nicely with The Prime of Miss Rose Cotton.


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


Attalus
Lorien


Mar 20, 1:07am

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Little House in the Old Forest?

We are the fighting Uruk-Hai! We slew the great warrior! Well, yeah, first he killed a bunch of us and another whole lot of Mauhr's lads, and we had to shoot enough arrows into him to drop a Mmak. But we got him!


Otaku-sempai
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Mar 20, 12:49pm

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Little House in the Old Forest?


Little House in the Lone-lands.

Tolkien never got around to telling the story of the adventure of Sam's daughter: Elanor in Wilderland.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Mar 29, 12:57pm

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Carcharoth
Rivendell


Mar 29, 1:03pm

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Carcharoth
Rivendell


Mar 29, 2:11pm

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First book titled: The Hobbiton Hero Returns

"Rosie Cotton thought she'd found the man of her dreams in Samwise Gamgee, the quintessential boy-next-door. Before that perfect romance could blossom, however, everything flew to pieces when an unspeakable tragedy tore them apart. Yet when Sam reappeared in her life, the sparks that flew were as explosive as the day they first met."

*Parody of (link to goodreads.com) Home to Harbor Town


 
 

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