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Eruonen
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Jan 23 2018, 4:59am
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It is also interesting, as has been discussed before,
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how in the LOTR appendices, they stayed close to the books and there are scenes that were considered, like in Moria that could have been very wild.....aka Goblin Town....but it was pulled back.
Of course later, with The Hobbit, and the need to fill out the story, plus the lure of technology etc. PJ in many viewers minds went over the top too often.
He seems more grounded and immersed in the LOTR story.
Contrast the need in The Hobbit to both, stay faithful but add a lot. Where he stays pretty faithful, he succeeds. Some of the invented scenes are terrific...others well, enough has been said on that topic.
It is also fun to watch technology advance...the computers - cutting edge at the time....are now so outclassed.
Q - when was the last appendices Watch Through?
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Darkstone
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Jan 23 2018, 4:59am
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To me he looks like David Warner (Time Bandits (1981)).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clive_Revill
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I met a Balrog on the stair.
He had some wings that weren't there.
They weren't there again today.
I wish he would just fly away.
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Silverlode
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Jan 23 2018, 8:43am
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of the first Broadway production of Oliver! on vinyl (when that was state-of-the-art and not retro), so he was my first (and still favorite) Fagin. I grew up listening to it and I liked to study the album notes while listening, so I feel like I've known his name forever. But I only occasionally encountered him in other roles over the years; in Star Wars, in a filmed stage version of The Mikado, and almost certainly in a few bit parts in TV shows where I didn't recognize him out of heavy makeup.
Looking at his IMDB page, he's obviously one of those who have had a long career on stage and screen without ever becoming really "known". A classic character actor, in other words.
Silverlode
Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.
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mcnpauls
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Jan 23 2018, 10:56am
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He's a superb actor with real range, charisma and a great, versatile voice.
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He's still working, too - he appeared in a major Spanish movie last year playing a John Ford-like movie director. He also voiced Thorin in a videogame of the Hobbit.
Can do comedy, tragedy, good or evil and a whole range of accents.
What is the version of the appendices you have been watching?
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Legomir
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Jan 23 2018, 6:51pm
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I haven't seen Clive Revill in much
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But I've heard his voice in a couple video games and cartoons, especially when I was younger. (There's a Marvel video game where he does a better Doctor Doom than any live action actor has so far.) Actually, to me, he WAS Thorin. I loved the way he voice him in The Hobbit video game from 2003, to the point that I was worried about whether or not I'd be impressed by Richard Armitage, just because I was so used to Revill. (That ended up not being a problem at all, because Armitage was amazing.)
He was also in The Legend of Hell House, a British horror film from the 70s. I really like it, even though I'm not sure why because it's incredibly cheesy.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea
Jan 24 2018, 1:57am
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I know of him only as the voice of the Emperor in The Empire Strikes Back...
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...that is, the real The Empire Strikes Back, not the George "I just can't help myself" Lucas messed up version. 
But I did recognize his name in the LotR appendices as the "voice" of Tolkien. I'm sorry to say I don't know of his other work, though perhaps I should rectify that. 
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that."
- Viggo Mortensen
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Eruonen
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Feb 1 2018, 3:11am
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The miniatures and bigatures are a favorite section....amazing.
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The section on WETA Digital will of course reflect the technology of the time but the principles are the same. The Balrog science of flame is so complex.
One scene that I always notice as a "tell" is when the company starts to run across the bridge in Khazad Dum....Boromir shot from behind, sort of has an odd, stutter motion before getting to speed.
It is clear to me the PJ of LOTR was more restrained which I think many of us appreciated. Of course, he had a few moments of excess, but nothing like in The Hobbit films.
http://www.dearcastandcrew.com/...ll-william-cook.html Randall William Cook interview - I note he was not involved with Kong or The Hobbit films.
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Eruonen
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Feb 1 2018, 3:32am
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Jamie Selkirk says they shot 5,000,000 feet of film and used 3.5M
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So theoretically, there is 1.5M feet of footage sitting in a can.
They said the first cut would be 4.5 hours long! Still want to see that or a Super Extended Edition. A lot of non-Frodo centric film was trimmed away. I still wish we had the "7 min" Prologue intended.
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