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What are your hopes for Amazon's Middle-earth series?
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Poll: What are your hopes for Amazon's Middle-earth series?
The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen
The North-kingdoms vs. the Witch-king
The Fall of Númenor
The Silmarillion
An anthology series (each season is a self-contained story)
Gardening with the Gaffer
Dwarf Dynasty (The Story of the Longbeards)
Game of Rings (The Rings of Power and the Third Age)
The Real Woses of Druadan Forest
Other (please elaborate)
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 20, 7:14pm

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As we wait for more news about Amazon's Middle-earth television series, what are your own hopes for the show and its focus?


Lissuin
Tol Eressea


Jan 20, 9:54pm

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Other. [In reply to] Can't Post

That they film at least some of it in Wellington! EvilWinkCoolAngelic


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 21, 2:07am

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So, a reality show? [In reply to] Can't Post

Wink


Fereth
Rivendell


Jan 21, 7:33pm

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Aragorn and Arwen [In reply to] Can't Post

Anthology, gardening with the Gaffer (gotta have some comedy relief in there somewhere), and "Other"- a better story arc/closure for Tauriel if they go with PJ's canon. Wouldn't mind seeing something about Elladan and Elrohir, either.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 21, 7:57pm

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Elladan and Elrohir? [In reply to] Can't Post

It seems to me that the story of the sons of Elrond is very much intertwined with many of the events of the Third Age of Middle-earth. They doubtless had parts to play in the defense of Arthedain and the fall of Angmar; they helped to train the sons of Dúnedain chieftains right up to the fostering of Aragorn as Estel; they rescued their mother from Orcs only to see her grow weary of Middle-earth and take ship into the West; and, the pair accompanied the Grey Company, following Aragorn through the Paths of the Dead, to the defense of Minas Tirith and to the Black Gate itself.


Kilidoescartwheels
Tol Eressea


Jan 22, 8:00pm

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My hope is that it's good [In reply to] Can't Post

Having never watched "Game of Thrones," I'm hoping that it won't be a M-e meets GoT thing, as so many here worry about. I suppose something in the 3rd Age would be good, since that's the only one I'm familiar with. A young Aragorn series would be fine, but I could care less about Arwen so probably not that first one.
Having said that, if they want to make a "Game of Thorin" series starring Richard Armitage, well I'd be okay with that!Wink


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 22, 8:13pm

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A young Aragorn series would be fine, but I could care less about Arwen so probably not that first one.
Having said that, if they want to make a "Game of Thorin" series starring Richard Armitage, well I'd be okay with that!Wink


Truthfully, according to the legendarium, after Aragorn first meets Arwen just after he turns twenty years old, he doesn't see her again for twenty-nine years when they are reunited in Lothlórien. This takes place in T.A. 2980, some months after Aragorn, as Thorongil, leaves the service of Ecthelion of Gondor.

I'm not hopeful about the chances of a full series that has the Longbeards as its focus; however, we might see such a thing as a part of a Middle-earth anthology series.


Kilidoescartwheels
Tol Eressea


Jan 23, 5:37pm

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I'm not hopeful about the chances of a full series that has the Longbeards as its focus; however, we might see such a thing as a part of a Middle-earth anthology series.


Yeah, I know ... but a girl can dream, can't she?


dernwyn
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Jan 23, 7:46pm

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...he said in an interview last week, that he's interested in this new series, is not sure what part he'd have in it, but it would definitely not be as a Dwarf.

I would like to see other LotR/Hobbit actors appearing here and there in it, too, as completely different characters. That would be fun.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 23, 8:23pm

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Richard Armitage [In reply to] Can't Post

I could see a number of potential roles for Richard Armitage (most of them rather kingly):
- Arathorn, father of Aragorn
- Beren
- King Bard
- King Arvedui
- Eärnur, the last King of Gondor
- Ar-Pharazôn of Númenor
- King Bain, son of Bard

I also see that the idea of an anthology series is gaining support.


(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Jan 23, 8:25pm)


Kilidoescartwheels
Tol Eressea


Jan 23, 9:43pm

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Where was this interview? [In reply to] Can't Post

Started looking for it as soon as I read your post - couldn't find it, though I did find something about the Logan v Wonder Woman Oscar thing - but that's another subject, isn't it?


Kilidoescartwheels
Tol Eressea


Jan 23, 9:44pm

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I'd go with Arathorn [In reply to] Can't Post

although Beren could be interesting.


Darkstone
Immortal


Jan 23, 10:22pm

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That it doesn't suck. [In reply to] Can't Post

That all the scripts for the entire first season aren't being pounded out by a couple of guys locked in a hotel room over a long weekend.

That a gig as a supporting character in the series isn't the grand prize on America's Next Top Model.

That the producers don't think the breakup of One Direction is a great opportunity to cast a demographically perfect Aragorn.

That they don't hire a supermodel with no acting experience to play Arwen.

That they don't hire the same cgi company that did Justice League.

That the Weinsteins don't get a production credit.

That "Canon? LOL!" isn't a constant on-set catchphrase.

That there isn't an episode where Aragorn and Sauron mind-swap.

That there isn't an episode where Aragorn has an evil twin.

I better stop now. I'm starting to not feel so good...


dernwyn
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Jan 24, 12:55am

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Here's a link. [In reply to] Can't Post

At 11:00: https://www.facebook.com/...s/10156204953890362/

He was in Paris, promoting the Berlin Station television series, and answered some fan questions on a Facebook chat. Cool


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Jan 24, 1:01am

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that they stick it on amazon [In reply to] Can't Post

so I can actually watch it... I do not have cable, netflix or anything other than a thirty foot antenna and DSL


Eldorion
Gondor


Jan 24, 5:35am

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Both because I think it's the overwhelmingly likely option and I don't want to set myself up for disappointment, and because I think that most other possibilities would be either (a) impossible to do justice to since Amazon only purchased the rights to LOTR or (b) have even less written about them in any of Tolkien's works than Young Aragorn (not that there's a ton on that topic either).


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 24, 4:03pm

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Aragorn does seem likely to me. [In reply to] Can't Post

As far as I can tell, we are not certain yet just how much material is covered by the rights now held by Amazon. They might cover nothing more than LotR and its appendices or they might be far more extensive than we could have imagined. The involvement of the Tolkien Estate opens up the potential for the series and what it could encompass.


Eldorion
Gondor


Jan 24, 7:53pm

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Available material [In reply to] Can't Post

Amazon's press release announcing the project made reference only to LOTR and Variety specifically stated that the rights to The Silmarillion are not included in the deal. I haven't seen anything to suggest otherwise except for one anonymous person on Reddit who claims to be a screenwriter but disappeared when asked to back up his claims regarding the rights situation (disclosure: I am "nolondil" in the linked thread). It's certainly possible that the Estate will offer the rights to additional works for sale in the future but as far as Amazon's first series is concerned I think the preponderance of evidence suggests it will be pretty much LOTR-centered.

(I also think it's unlikely that Amazon is spending the better part of half a billion dollars--after factoring in production and marketing costs--to produce a series that does not make heavy use of specific elements of Middle-earth and characters who are already well-known to a general viewing audience, but that's more of a suspicion than anything I can attempt to demonstrate.)


(This post was edited by Eldorion on Jan 24, 7:55pm)


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 24, 10:07pm

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Late Third Age does seem most likely. [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for reminding me about The Silmarillion reportedly being excluded from the deal. That still leaves the Second Age as a potential focus, though I agree that the travels of young Aragorn might be most likely. However, an anthology series could explore a number of different periods, places and characters including some familiar to viewers of the films.

We have been specifically told, though, that the series will be set before the War of the Ring.


Eldorion
Gondor


Jan 24, 10:32pm

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It has been confusing (for me, anyway) trying to keep track of what's happening. Variety's statement about the Silm rights wasn't even part of the original article; they slipped it in a day later without making note of the change occurring so I only happened to see it because I re-read the piece looking for something else.

Anyway, I don't personally think that the series is likely to be about the Second Age. There is very little source material that Amazon has to work with and while they could try to flesh out a full series from the scant mentions of the S.A. in the Appendices, that would be treading a very fine legal line (though again, the legal situation could change in the future). I also don't think it would be satisfying to anyone to try to make, say, a Fall of Númenor miniseries where you have to exclude most of the interesting details because they're in off-limits books. Hypothetically, I could see a War of the Elves and Sauron adaptation being interesting, but Celebrimbor isn't even mentioned in Appendix A so the source material just isn't really there until and unless the Silm and UT become available.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 24, 10:56pm

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A series centered on the Fall of Númenor just wouldn't be the same without access to the "Akallabêth" as published in The Silmarillion. In my own opinion it would not even be worth attempting. Right now, I just want to know who is the showrunner for this series and what is their vision for it.


Eldorion
Gondor


Jan 24, 11:32pm

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Sounds like we're in the same boat then [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't watch enough TV dramas to have a sense of who might be in the running as potential showrunners, but once one is announced I'll probably at least read up on their previous work. Smile


Ethel Duath
Half-elven


Jan 28, 2:53am

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(So I hope he's not directing, except for the scene where he parts the Bruinen and gets it to flow back at just the right moment.

What?! And you all thought it was Gandalf and Elrond?)


Belegdir
Lorien


Jan 28, 5:09pm

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Something that can cover all aspects of Middle-Earth [In reply to] Can't Post

An anthology with mini-arcs would allow them to cover many time periods and many characters.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 28, 5:35pm

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That might be too ambitious. [In reply to] Can't Post


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An anthology with mini-arcs would allow them to cover many time periods and many characters.


I like the idea of an anthology series, though it would probably be more limited in scope than you would prefer.

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