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The type of series

Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Nov 19 2017, 11:47pm

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I actually wonder what type of series we are talking about here. Is it a 30 week series of half an hour to one hour programs with the possibility of other series following? Might have to be to include everything in the books and some of the material which was left out in the movies. Or is it a series of 4 episodes of say an hour or even two hours. It does make a difference!


Eldorion
Gondor


Nov 20 2017, 12:42am

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I suspect it will be similar to other current "prestige" dramas [In reply to] Can't Post

Which is to say 10-15 roughly hour long episodes per season. The first two seasons of Amazon's The Man in the High Castle had 10 episodes each. Due to the budget involved I'd expect the new Middle-earth series to be towards the lower end of that range too.



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squire
Half-elven


Nov 20 2017, 2:41am

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As far as we know, they won't be doing "the book" - Lord of the Rings [In reply to] Can't Post

It's very unclear what they are doing, but the emphasis in the press release was the idea of spin-offs and additional stories that draw on the central world history and events of the War of the Ring.

Most of us have been assuming that this means the small backstories provided in the LotR Appendices, enlarged and expanded as needed by a corps of writers.

So the structure is anyone's guess. Could the "Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" be done in four 1-hour segments? Yes. Could it be done as a full season of 15 1-hour shows? Again, yes. After all, the text is only 4000 words, with less than five minutes worth of quoted dialogue provided by the author. Four hours or fifteen hours, it will be up to the show's writers to invent whatever amount of drama "based on the works of J. R. R. Tolkien" that the producers decide the market and budget will bear.



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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 20 2017, 2:57am

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Aragorn's tale as multi-season show? [In reply to] Can't Post


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So the structure is anyone's guess. Could the "Tale of Aragorn and Arwen" be done in four 1-hour segments? Yes. Could it be done as a full season of 15 1-hour shows? Again, yes. After all, the text is only 4000 words, with less than five minutes worth of quoted dialogue provided by the author. Four hours or fifteen hours, it will be up to the show's writers to invent whatever amount of drama "based on the works of J. R. R. Tolkien" that the producers decide the market and budget will bear.


On the other hand, the story of Aragorn spans 200 years, 70 years just from his birth to the year of Bilbo's eleventy-first birthday. If the series essentially starts with Aragorn's twentieth birthday then it could cover 29 years just to reach his betrothal to Arwen.

A series about the last days of Arthedain might actually cover a narrower span of time than a show focused on Aragorn.

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balbo biggins
Rohan


Nov 20 2017, 3:55am

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Not sure that's what was said [In reply to] Can't Post


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It's very unclear what they are doing, but the emphasis in the press release was the idea of spin-offs and additional stories that draw on the central world history and events of the War of the Ring.


Actually it said nothing of the sort. It simply said events prior to the fellowship of the ring. That's the only information we have to go on regarding story.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Nov 20 2017, 6:00pm

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number of episodes [In reply to] Can't Post

A lower number of a better quality would be fine...

Sherlock anyone? There's a good example.

bigger on the inside...

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Aue, aue,
Te fenua, te mālie
Nā heko hakilia
We know the way
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Darkstone
Immortal


Nov 20 2017, 6:03pm

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Probably... [In reply to] Can't Post

10-14 episodes with a season arc. The first few episodes set up the arc, the last few lead up to the final resolution or a game-changing cliff-hanger. The arc might be anything from The Fall of Gondolin to Aragorn and Legolas helping Elladan and Elrohir avenge Celebrian's wounding.

The first and last episodes will probably be two hour specials with the intervening episodes one hour. If Amazon has trouble keeping up with the shooting schedule then one or more hours may be clip shows, or "cheaters", made up of scenes from previous episodes connected by minimal framing scenes. (For example Aragorn, relating "our story so far" in the setting of The Prancing Pony.)

Or not.

I'm assuming the expense of an anthology-type M-e show would be prohibitive, but I've been wrong before.

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Eruonen
Valinor


Nov 20 2017, 6:09pm

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Probably similar to Vikings in season length..,..just a guess. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


InTheChair
Lorien

Nov 20 2017, 9:31pm

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I think we'll get just as much as we can take, or more. [In reply to] Can't Post

Realistically I think we have to expect them to franchise Middle Earth. Think Star Wars, think Marvel, think GoT and so on. They will continue to produce hour long episodes on a regular schedule as long as the audience is there to play ball. Open ended season endings, and if the clamour for more is loud enough they will produce another season, or perhaps a spin-off series. Or both.

 
 

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