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Black speech in The Hobbit - Bolg

ProudFeet
The Shire

Nov 12 2017, 10:31pm

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I was wondering why there are some moments in The Hobbit movies where some of the Black speech isn't translated. It's a fascinating language that I believe was written as almost a complete language by Tolkien, and there are only a few moments in the films where it's not subtitled. Whilst it's still easy to suggest what the character of Bolg, for example, is still saying, I just found it curious. Two instances that come to mind are a moment in Desolation of Smaug when he sees the barrels going over the waterfall and a moment where he arrives at Ravenhill and commands his bodyguard. If anyone knows of any way to translate some of the Black speech in these scenes, I'd be very grateful.


Otaku-sempai
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Nov 12 2017, 11:00pm

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I was wondering why there are some moments in The Hobbit movies where some of the Black speech isn't translated. It's a fascinating language that I believe was written as almost a complete language by Tolkien, and there are only a few moments in the films where it's not subtitled.


I don't have an answer for your question, though I am puzzled by your one statement. I'm not aware that Tolkien ever coined more than a few words and phrases of the Black Speech. That is very far from inventing a complete language. Most of the Black Speech in the films was invented for the films, not by Tolkien.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock


Otaku-sempai
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Nov 12 2017, 11:00pm

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I was wondering why there are some moments in The Hobbit movies where some of the Black speech isn't translated. It's a fascinating language that I believe was written as almost a complete language by Tolkien, and there are only a few moments in the films where it's not subtitled.


I don't have an answer for your question, though I am puzzled by your one statement. I'm not aware that Tolkien ever coined more than a few words and phrases of the Black Speech. That is very far from inventing a complete language. Most of the Black Speech in the films was invented for the films, not by Tolkien.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock

 
 

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