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Why didn't Sauron have a human necromancer form?

Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Nov 3 2017, 2:15pm

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Why didn't Sauron have a human necromancer form? Can't Post

I feel they wasted a established actor like Benedict Cumberbatch in Sauron's role. Could have dressed him up as a faceless necromancer. Just like this:

https://img00.deviantart.net/...achine86-d2yr15f.jpg


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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 3 2017, 2:29pm

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It wasn't needed. [In reply to] Can't Post

Sauron did not seem to have a need for a human form in the film trilogy. He had no mortal servants outside of his Orcs, and he didn't need to hide his identity from them. Also, I think the conceit of the films is that Sauron is unable to assume a physical form again unless he regains the One Ring.

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Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Nov 3 2017, 2:41pm

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A ghostly figure [In reply to] Can't Post

Okay, maybe not physical as you can touch him, but perhaps like the Nazgul? You see him as a being standing than a shadow. Dressed up like the picture I posted, so that people think he is really a human sorcerer.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Nov 3 2017, 3:31pm

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No motive. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Okay, maybe not physical as you can touch him, but perhaps like the Nazgul? You see him as a being standing than a shadow. Dressed up like the picture I posted, so that people think he is really a human sorcerer.


Sauron has no internal reason to do this. It would solely be targeted at the audience and it would not be driven by story logic.

"I may be on the side of the angels, but do not think for one second that I am one of them." - Sherlock


Darkstone
Immortal


Nov 6 2017, 2:47pm

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Series continuity [In reply to] Can't Post

If Sauron has a human form in The Hobbit, then why didn't he have one in LOTR?

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Nov 6 2017, 6:02pm

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Sauron wasn't even in The Hobbit [In reply to] Can't Post

It was his understudy The Neck Romancer ... Wink

Well, actually no form for the Necromancer is mentioned in The Hobbit .. er, ok, book that is...

*BG goes off-topic?* Blush

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L. Ron Halfelven
Grey Havens


Nov 6 2017, 7:15pm

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Christopher Lee wanted that Neck Romancer role in the worst way./ [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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KingTurgon
Rohan


Nov 17 2017, 3:48pm

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Correct [In reply to] Can't Post

Saruman states it point blank in Fellowship as well.

Although I do dig that model that the OP posted. In fact I have it lol. I feel like that would have been cool to see, as it's more of a ghost that looks like a human than an actual human form, if that makes any sense.

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(This post was edited by KingTurgon on Nov 17 2017, 3:49pm)

 
 

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