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Daniel Falconer: Middle-earth from Script to Screen Book
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Silmaril
Rohan


Oct 17 2017, 12:50pm

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Daniel Falconer: Middle-earth from Script to Screen Book Can't Post

or The Making Of Middle-earth will be published in the next days.
Amazon.de already sent out the book.

I'm hoping for a lot of new LOTR stuff.

https://www.amazon.de/...Hobbit/dp/0062486144 (11 images)
https://www.amazon.de/...king+of+middle+earth
https://www.wetanz.com/shop/books-movies-tv/middle-earth-from-script-to-screen (10 images)




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OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 17 2017, 4:36pm

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I am really excited for this book! [In reply to] Can't Post

But since I am in the US, I won't be seeing it for another monthFrown But still excited none the less.

I am hoping for some new LOTR stuff as well. I am just extremely excited for a coffee table book finally like this!Heart




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 19 2017, 4:03am

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*geeky hand clapping* :D [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't wait to get this one! I've had it on pre-order since... uhhhh... February-ish! :D




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OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 19 2017, 12:13pm

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I'm hoping to preorder it! [In reply to] Can't Post

I keep hinting to my mom as a graduation gift Wink!




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 21 2017, 1:53am

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oooo... great idea :D [In reply to] Can't Post

I just got notice today from Amazon.UK that they shipped it out today... and that I've been reimbursed a proper chunk of money since the price was reduced as of February.

Oh... I hope your Mom is really good at suggestions! And EARLY HAPPY GRADUATION!!!!! :D *geeky hand clapping*




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OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 21 2017, 2:02pm

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Oh yay!! I'm so excited for you!!! [In reply to] Can't Post

And thank you so much! Its helps that my mom is also a Tolkien fan herself!Wink




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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 21 2017, 9:58pm

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You tell your Mom [In reply to] Can't Post

that your gramma said it was a perfect present! ;)




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OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 21 2017, 11:12pm

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Okay, I sure will!! [In reply to] Can't Post

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"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 26 2017, 12:10pm

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Hey gramma, did you receive your copy of the book yet? [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm itching to know!Wink(even though, I honestly enjoyed all the books from Weta so I know this will not disappoint!)Heart




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2017, 12:40pm

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Yes! Yes! :D [In reply to] Can't Post

In fact, I was just coming here to tell you.... IT'S HERE! It came yesterday from the UK! OMG! It's absolutely incredible! I've gathered the other books from Weta, too... and this one had me gasping before I even cracked open the page! Even the Table of Contents is unique. It's a big, heavy book of awesomeness! It's packed with photos, sketches, comments and text that walk you through each of the films' sets (Shire, Lindon, Mirkwood, etc.) and what went into bringing them to life. It even has 2 pages showing just the faces of the Hobbiton homes.

For example: Rivendell [pgs 90-115]. There are inserts and sections that cover:

The description of Rivendell and its place in the story.
The House of Elrond
Elrond (bio)
Elves of Rivendell
miniatures and full sets [complete with production photos]
...Example of text: "'Rivendell was the second miniature we made for The Lord of the Rings. Alan [Lee] didn't arrive with absolute certainty about the layout, so as we built the miniature he actually used it to map out the shapes, which was a very lovely thing to witness.' Richard Taylor."
conception and production info
Actors' comments
Rivendell recreated for The Hobbit films
Bill the Pony [his connection to Rivendell]
Art Direction
Elrond's Chamber and Balcony
The Man in the Moon [how the song was laced into the film by Bofur]
Narsil and Anduril
Heirlooms of Middle-earth
Dwarves' accommodations in Rivendell
Some details of Arwen's room
Elrond's Observatory
Thorin's map
Gilraen and Gilraen's Grave
The Ring of Barahir
Rivendell forge [with examples of tools]
White Council Chamber [including Lee's overhead/layout sketch]
Lindir

Okay... this has been a quick synopsis of just the chapter on Rivendell. Of course, there's varying degrees of coverage for each chapter and location... but I've only had time to look through the book for about an hour last night ;)

This is a serious read that will transport you into this world and the people who made it happen. I'm glowing with contentedness and awe.

Hurry! Tell your Mom! :D Even she will be gah-gah over this one! ;)




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OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 27 2017, 12:53pm

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Oh my!! :D [In reply to] Can't Post

Wow! That sounds so INCREDIBLE!!! Okay, I am even more excited than I was before!(And I was pretty excited! lol)

I'm so happy that they had made a book about the whole film story of Tolkien's marvelous world. The Weta books for the Hobbit and the Making of book for the LOTR's were great, (I have quite a fewWink) but I'm so thrilled that this book is coming!

I'm so glad that you are so happy with this book!!HeartHeart

My mom knows how much I'd love to have it, and has promised that I will probably have my own copy by the day it is released (Nov 21) I even told her that I would help pay for it has well. Smile My mom is very understanding over LOTR's( as I said before, she's a fan as well!)

Last year the week of Thanksgiving, I had borrowed a Harry Potter book about all the characters, and it was quite memorable looking at that while preparing for our Thanksgiving meal, so I'm kind hoping for something similar this year(This time looking at my favorite topic!Wink)




"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 27 2017, 1:03pm

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Oh good :D [In reply to] Can't Post

I also love the Potter books and films! I'll have to check that book out, too ;)

*hugs*




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OldestDaughter
Rohan


Oct 27 2017, 1:06pm

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My younger sister is a huge Harry Potter fan! [In reply to] Can't Post

I've borrowed a giant Potter book from the library a few months ago particularly because I knew she would love it since she loves anything "Harry Potter."

I just love coffee table books! They are amazing!

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"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 27 2017, 3:41pm

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Early Development? [In reply to] Can't Post

What I've been wanting to know: does this book throw a light on the early development of the films, when Guillermo del Toro was still in the director's chair? I've been anxious to see more of the early pre-production art including del Toro's version of Smaug. I know that a 6-foot tall maquette of the dragon was made, but I've never seen an image of it. I've been fervently hoping we would see that and other early concept art in this book.

"Far, far below the deepest delvings of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he."


Silmaril
Rohan


Oct 28 2017, 10:39am

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Anything new from LOTR? [In reply to] Can't Post

Deleted Scenes of LOTR or anything like that which was not published before???


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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 3:40pm

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Oops! Omission! [In reply to] Can't Post

Of course, my question was directed specifically towards the Hobbit films. I suspect that was already fairly clear.

"Far, far below the deepest delvings of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he."


grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 6:17pm

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I knew what you meant :) [In reply to] Can't Post

And I've been looking through the chapters that would cover early GdT contributions; but there's nothing so far. I haven't had time to go through much more, but I'll keep an eye open. So far, the book focuses on the films' sets/locations and how they were created and is seeded with contributing parts of the story. It covers what led up to the finished product, not the entire history of how the films were came about. More in the format of the other Weta books.

BUT it's so incredible and detailed. Very high quality pictures and tidbits of how each part of the stories came about :)




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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 6:21pm

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Not that I've seen so far. [In reply to] Can't Post

Take a look at my response to Otaku-sempai just below your question :) where I kind of explain how the book covers the various locations and what went into making the films.

I would LOVE to see deleted scenes and other production notes, but so far I haven't seen any. I've only had a short time to look through the book, but I'll let you know if I find anything :D I keep getting slowed down by the eye-popping pictures :D




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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 6:32pm

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TABLE OF CONTENT EXAMPLE [In reply to] Can't Post

In case the link isn't working, here's another one for the Table of Content example .


Check out my Yes! Yes! response to OldestDaughter for a description of how the Rivendell Chapter is put together :)




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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 6:41pm

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That's a shame. [In reply to] Can't Post

I've been hoping for more coverage of the early stages of development of the Hobbit movies including during the period when the 'bridge film' was being considered. Maybe we'll see that in some future volume.

"Far, far below the deepest delvings of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he."


Silmaril
Rohan


Oct 28 2017, 7:01pm

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Thanks for your reply. [In reply to] Can't Post

I wonder if we will ever see EVERYTHING of Lotr.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 7:04pm

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The Cold Fells! [In reply to] Can't Post


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In case the link isn't working, here's another one for the Table of Content example .


It's too bad that map on the Contents page doesn't show more of the Misty Mountains On the other hand, this is the first map I've seen that gives a good idea of the location of the High Fells of Rhudaur. The High Fells seem to be about one hundred miles or so north of Rivendell, in the Misty Mountains bordering the Ettenmoors, near the source of the River Hoarwell. Their placed on the eastern side of the range, but I suspect they were originally supposed to be closer to the western side.

"Far, far below the deepest delvings of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he."

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squire
Half-elven


Oct 28 2017, 9:52pm

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What are the 'High Fells'? [In reply to] Can't Post

I recognized your reference to the Cold Fells [sic] - that is the land where Aragorn's father was killed by trolls, in 'The Tale of Aragorn and Arwen.' (It is a single word, not two):
Arador was taken by hill-trolls in the Coldfells north of Rivendell and was slain; - LotR App A.I.v., bold by squire
Now, maybe it's too much of a leap, but I've always taken that reference to be the same place as what Aragorn himself names, in Fellowship, as the 'troll-fells'. My feeling was, basically, how many different 'fells' can we really have 'north of Rivendell', when just one is shown on the map? For Aragorn says the troll-fells is just another name for the Ettenmoors:
'We have now come to the River Hoarwell, that the Elves call Mitheithel. It flows down out of the Ettenmoors, the troll-fells north of Rivendell, and joins the Loudwater away in the South.' - LotR I.12., bold by squire
Later, at the Council, Gandalf makes the same equation: the troll-fells are the Ettenmoors, which he traversed on his way back to Rivendell after escaping the Riders. The Ettenmoors, of course, are on Tolkien's Middle-earth map, right up there 'north of Rivendell' just as advertised.

Now you, and the mapmaker for the book's clever Contents page, seem to know something about a place called the 'High Fells'. I've never heard of that variation on the Coldfells/troll-fells, or neighboring formation, or whatever it's supposed to be. Where in his writings does Tolkien name it?



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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 28 2017, 11:02pm

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Squire, you've never heard any of the references to the High Fells of Rhudaur in Peter Jackson's Hobbit movies? This is where the Nazgűl were entombed, probably at the beginning of the four hundred years of watchful peace that Elrond refers to in Rivendell (as opposed to Tolkien's Watchful Peace, T.A. 2063-2460, which covered a different period of time and represented the period when Sauron fled into the East to avoid discovery by Gandalf).

The tombs at the High Fells was the location that Gandalf and Radagast visit in The Desolation of Smaug before they continue on to Dol Guldur. According to the map in Falconer's book it is actually a bit north (and east) of the Coldfells.

"Far, far below the deepest delvings of the Dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things. Even Sauron knows them not. They are older than he."

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squire
Half-elven


Oct 28 2017, 11:49pm

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Ah, that explains it. [In reply to] Can't Post

No, I know nothing of the latter two films.

I wonder why they even bothered to rename the location? Coldfells....troll-fells...Ettenmoors: all evocative and suitably mythical names that were available and correct for, if not The Hobbit, at least for The Lord of the Rings.

As for the invented "High Fells" location on the map, all the places seem to be just about anywhere the artist wants them to be. Hobbiton is closer to the Grey Havens than it is to Buckleberry Ferry, and the Ettenmoors are, absurdly, due north of the Midgewater Marshes. I would be leery of thinking of this map as any kind of indicator where anything "is actually" in terms of Tolkien's actual Middle-earth.



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