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Can you spot the error on first read? I hope so!

Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 17 2017, 1:58am

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Can you spot the error on first read? I hope so! Can't Post

http://web.sbu.edu/...tolkien's_second.htm

A big minus check mark.......grade, C-


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 17 2017, 2:19am

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Which one? [In reply to] Can't Post

I can see several errors (including errors of omission) starting with the fact that Sauron suffered a number of defeats during the Second Age. I am guessing that you are referring to this:

Elves of Numenor send an army to Middle-earth against Sauron.

It was of course the Men of Númenor, led by Ar-Pharazôn, that defeated Sauron and brought him back with them as a captive.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall.” -- The Doctor


squire
Half-elven


Oct 17 2017, 2:35am

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The entire site is rather casually done. [In reply to] Can't Post

Along with the Numenor blooper (a big one), there are typos, odd omissions as Otaku notes, and a general sense of it having been thrown together from other internet sources.

We all make mistakes, and Tolkien's legendarium is huge, complex, and difficult to master. But this is, as far as I can see, an academic site put out by a professor who teaches a course involving Tolkien and the other Inklings, to be used as a reference by his students. It hasn't been updated since 2006, and I suspect it's basically dormant. He does ask for comments and corrections - any takers?



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Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 17 2017, 2:37am

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A quick glance and #3 jumped out at me......a rather critical mistake. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 17 2017, 2:56am

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More misinformation [In reply to] Can't Post

And a glaring one at that:


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Elves are counseled to return to the west. But rather than going again to Valinor they go to the islands of Eressea and Numenor.


What Elves colonized Númenor? The Númenóreans were Men; granted, their first king was Elros, the brother of Elrond.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall.” -- The Doctor


Eruonen
Valinor


Oct 17 2017, 3:03am

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It is hard to make such glaring mistakes if one is at the least bit [In reply to] Can't Post

familiar with the topic. Imagine any other subject with such errors:

"After Washington defeated Lee at the battle New Orleans the south capitulated...."

"FDR dropped the atomic bombs on North Korea to force them to declare a ceasefire."


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Oct 17 2017, 5:02pm

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In the Civil War my great great grandfather fought for the West.... // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




Darkstone
Immortal


Oct 17 2017, 6:54pm

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Mine fought to preserve the union suit. [In reply to] Can't Post

Specifically great great grandmother's.

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The audacious proposal stirred his heart. And the stirring became a song, and it mingled with the songs of Gil-galad and Celebrian, and with those of Feanor and Fingon. The song-weaving created a larger song, and then another, until suddenly it was as if a long forgotten memory woke and for one breathtaking moment the Music of the Ainur revealed itself in all glory. He opened his lips to sing and share this song. Then he realized that the others would not understand. Not even Mithrandir given his current state of mind. So he smiled and simply said "A diversion.”




Bracegirdle
Valinor


Oct 17 2017, 9:06pm

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Her's musta had a front door :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




Bracegirdle
Valinor


Oct 17 2017, 9:47pm

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And while our minds close in on gutter-bound... [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm reminded of my brother the hunter (I'm NOT). Whenever he spots a pile of bear poop he sticks a few sheets of toilet paper on top. Tongue

No humor in this family . . . Wink

*Ducks for cover*

‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




Ethel Duath
Half-elven


Oct 18 2017, 1:56am

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The Elves of Numenor, eh? [In reply to] Can't Post

BlushMad



Ethel Duath
Half-elven


Oct 18 2017, 2:04am

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Mine published the Lincoln Log: [In reply to] Can't Post

a timeline of our 331/3 president (also available in 45 RPM).


 
 

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