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Armies of Dol Amroth should have been included in ROTK.

Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Oct 12 2017, 8:53pm

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I hate how weak the gondorian soldiers were portrayed in the last movie. The movie would have benefit of having the Swan knights saving the day then the ghost army.
Also, having Beregond to show not all of Gondor are weak. The guy that supposed to play Imrahil in the movie, could have been this character.
The Ghost Army can show up when Sauron releases the wraiths from the Barrow Downs in his final desperate attempt to seize victory.


(This post was edited by Victariongreyjoy on Oct 12 2017, 8:55pm)


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 12 2017, 10:21pm

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Personally, I would have had Aragorn mobilize southern Gondor as he does in the novel. He would have released the Dead Men of Dunharrow after taking the Corsair fleet and brought Gondorian reinforcements to aid Minas Tirith and not the Army of the Scrubbing Bubbles.

I agree with you about Beregond; I also wish that he and his son could have been in Jackson's The Return of the King.

There are no Wraiths imprisoned in the Barrow-downs. The Barrow-wights are a different sort of undead and are too far away to factor into the final battle at the Gates of Mordor.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall.” -- The Doctor


Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Oct 12 2017, 10:33pm

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I want every adaptation to be as much faithul to the source material as possible. But taking the liberty of having the barrow downs wraiths as a force Sauron can use, is not in my opinion a bad idea.
Sauron in his tower using the black speech magic to awaken the wraiths, and sends them to slaughter the reinforcement, but the ghost comes in the nick of time and eradicate them.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 12 2017, 11:16pm

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The only Wraiths that we know about are the Nazgūl, the nine Ring-wraiths.

I would have very much liked to see the Barrow-wights in the Fellowship of the Ring movie and even without Tom Bombadil that might have worked--either as an alternate way of introducing Strider, or with the Wandering Company of Gildor Inglorion rescuing the Hobbits.

But, I repeat, Wights ain't Wraiths.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall.” -- The Doctor


Victariongreyjoy
Rivendell


Oct 13 2017, 3:02pm

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Maybe just make them some lesser wraiths? [In reply to] Can't Post


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The only Wraiths that we know about are the Nazgūl, the nine Ring-wraiths.

I would have very much liked to see the Barrow-wights in the Fellowship of the Ring movie and even without Tom Bombadil that might have worked--either as an alternate way of introducing Strider, or with the Wandering Company of Gildor Inglorion rescuing the Hobbits.

But, I repeat, Wights ain't Wraiths.


Taking the liberty of changing them from wights to lesser wraiths? Just a thought.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Oct 13 2017, 4:40pm

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Taking the liberty of changing them from wights to lesser wraiths? Just a thought.


Yeah, a screenwriter could certainly do that. But I don't see any need for it from a storytelling perspective. The Barrow-downs are too far away to make any difference in the battles being fought in Rhovanion. I hate the kind of sloppy screenwriting that would just 'magick' them there instantly. I hated it when Peter Jackson showed little to no respect for the distances involved in traveling across Middle-earth. Middle-earth shouldn't work that way.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall.” -- The Doctor

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Oct 13 2017, 4:42pm)


KingTurgon
Rohan


Nov 17 2017, 4:21pm

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Imrahil was awesome in the book and it was a shame he was cut from the movie.

1) FOTR 2) ROTK 3) AUJ 4) TTT 5) DOS 6) BOFA

 
 

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