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The size of ME Eagles

Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Jul 4 2017, 11:49pm

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I was wondering about the actual size of the Eagles of the Misty Mountains and comparing them to the birds we know today. Now, Eagles are some of the biggest birds we have, but I have not known any of them that could pick up something like a Wizard like Gandalf or a Dwarf or even a Hobbit the size of Bilbo. A rabbit or a lamb maybe but that is the maximum I believe. Which means that the Eagles of Middle-Earth must have been pretty big!


Otaku-sempai
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Jul 5 2017, 12:05am

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Even larger than the Steller's Sea Eagle, the Harpy Eagle, the Philippine Eagle, or the extinct Haast's Eagle of New Zealand that preyed upon the giant moa. A female Haast's Eagle might have reached a weight of up to 36 pounds and a wingspan of nearly 10 feet.

Weta gives the wingspan of Gwaihir as 950 cm or 31 ft. 2 in.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall. -- The Doctor

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Lissuin
Tol Eressea


Jul 5 2017, 7:17am

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And the "life-size" Weta eagle at Wellington airport, after it fell from the ceiling in the 20 Jan 2014 earthquake,



and life-size Gandalf on Gwaihir.



There's Wetas's 31ft 2 inch wingspan.Smile


Otaku-sempai
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Jul 5 2017, 12:53pm

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The largest flying bird ever, by wingspan, was a prehistoric seabird called Pelagornis sandersi that lived about 25 million years ago, with a wingspan between 6.1 and 7.4m (20-24ft).



The heaviest known flying bird was Argentavis magnificens "a condor-like bird from South America with an estimated wingspan of 5.7-6.1m (19-20ft) that lived about six million years ago." Argentavis was estimated to mass about 7072 kg (154159 lb).

The largest real-world flying creature ever was the pterosaur Quetzalcoatlus northropi, with a wingspan of up to 15.9 meters (52 feet).



Of course Smaug would have dwarfed even Quetzalcoatlus.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall. -- The Doctor

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Jul 5 2017, 12:56pm)


Hamfast Gamgee
Grey Havens

Jul 23 2017, 10:59pm

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But I wonder if any could pick up a man!


Otaku-sempai
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Jul 23 2017, 11:20pm

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I don't even know if Quetzalcoatlus could have flown with a full-grown man. But then pterosaurs were probably better gliders as opposed to strong flyers.

"Who I am is where I stand. Where I stand is where I fall. -- The Doctor

 
 

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