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SirDennisC
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May 22 2017, 5:18pm
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Trying to discern if a certain quote belongs to Tolkien -
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The quote: 'Little by little one travels far.'
At it's heart, it seems like something he might have said, if not for the twee air about it. Many thanks for any help or insights you may share.
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Darkstone
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May 22 2017, 7:05pm
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http://www.thetolkienist.com/...thnsdwohatdw-part-2/
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Once Radagast dreamt he was a moth, a moth flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Radagast. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakably Radagast. But he didn't know if he was Radagast who had dreamt he was a moth, or a moth dreaming he was Radagast. Between Radagast and a moth there must be some distinction! But really, there isn't, because he's actually Aiwendil dreaming he's both Radagast *and* a moth!
-From Radagasti: The Moth Dream
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SirDennisC
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May 22 2017, 8:35pm
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Seemed off, the way some quotes mistakenly attributed to the Bible seem off. The sentiment feels right, kind of, but the voice is all wrong.
Thanks squire.
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SirDennisC
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May 22 2017, 8:42pm
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Put the whole notion to bed quite thoroughly I thought. Still, I wanted to read what the experts around here had to say. ( is this Tolkienist fellow a TORn member?)
Thanks for posting the link.
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Darkstone
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May 22 2017, 9:54pm
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Much like Mark Twain and Winston Churchill, Tolkien is getting to be quite a "quote magnet". Quotes by Nathaniel Hawthorne, Ursula Le Guin, and others are being attributed to him.
My own chimera is "We were all orcs in that war". It's often cited as a Tolkien quote, but I've never found a primary source.
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Once Radagast dreamt he was a moth, a moth flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Radagast. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakably Radagast. But he didn't know if he was Radagast who had dreamt he was a moth, or a moth dreaming he was Radagast. Between Radagast and a moth there must be some distinction! But really, there isn't, because he's actually Aiwendil dreaming he's both Radagast *and* a moth!
-From Radagasti: The Moth Dream
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Yngwulff
Gondor
May 22 2017, 10:07pm
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Words like that which Tolkien used always intrigued me. In this case when Tolkien describes how the Ring "burned like a glede" in Isildurs hand.
“I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.”
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SirDennisC
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May 23 2017, 12:17am
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I came across this:https://groups.google.com/....tolkien/swZfMa6yOe0
Not only does it call the 'orcs' quote apocryphal, it points to a 2011 discussion at TORn in support of that verdict. Interestly, the "little by little" quote is mentioned in both discussions as well.
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SirDennisC
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May 23 2017, 12:40am
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at the number of words that might have been forgotten, like so much left luggage, if not for Professor Tolkien.
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geordie
Tol Eressea
May 26 2017, 7:16pm
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I don't know whether he's a member here or not -
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- but I know the gent, and he's at least as knowledgeable about Tolkien as I am.
And you can take it from me; this is not Tolkien.
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SirDennisC
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May 27 2017, 2:35am
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what I felt in my gut, with yours and the others confirmation, I can now trust.
Thank you my friend.
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geordie
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May 27 2017, 6:42am
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Ethel Duath
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Jun 17 2017, 2:28pm
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Reminds me of what C.S, Lewis said about
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the dangers of "spoiling your ear" as a writer by reading junky literature (in Letters to Children). That woke me up to the fact that writing is an awful lot like music, and how much my "ear" is affected by various types of writing. For instance I find some authors' works off-putting because the wording seems "bumpy" and unconnected, and without any seeming attention to the sound of the words themselves (kind of the the psalms in the NIV version of the Bible . . . ). And I find myself reading certain passages in Tolkien over and over again just to experience the feel of the words.
And yes, your quote definitely fails the ear test!
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