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Alientraveller
Lorien
May 13 2017, 1:08pm
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Hi everyone - written a couple of articles I'd like to share
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Well, I'm back.
Some of you may remember I used to post regularly here until five years ago due to some bitter arguments and when it became clear The Hobbit would be a disappointment. Anyway, I've written a couple of pieces speculating on the future on my favourite film series on the big and small screen. I hope you enjoy them, that they spur some encouraging thoughts, and if you do like them then click the share ( ) button. 
https://medium.com/...-movies-e100179bd1ea
https://medium.com/...-series-7f241244302b
"Sure, it's not really The Lord of the Rings, but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie." - PJ
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AshNazg
Gondor
May 15 2017, 11:06pm
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I'd prefer seeing what happens between The Hobbit and LotR...
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If they're scared of dwindling interest after The Hobbit, then play safe and do a cartoon spin-off (like the old 90's cartoons - Ghostbusters, the Mask, Jumanji, Beetlejuice, Ace Ventura, Godzilla, Men in Black, Star Wars and all the Disney shows). they could even get Lego to produce it, for all the benefits of merchandising.
There are so many cool events to explore between the trilogies. focus on Legolas as the main character, on his search for Strider. Lead into the hunt for Gollum, introduce Gandalf and go into the battles between Lorien and Dol Guldur, set up the reclaiming of Moria etc. A great opportunity to kill-off Tauriel too 
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AshNazg
Gondor
May 15 2017, 11:21pm
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Definitely would like to see a TV series of Lord of the Rings.
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My favourite adaptation of Lord of the Rings is BBC's radio show. It works so perfectly as an episodic story. It's much slower paced and feels more like the book.
Also, a TV show seems like the logical next step when you consider LotR has been adapted into every other medium...
Books (Tolkien)
Radio Series (BBC)
Theatrical Animation (Bakshi)
Television Animation (Rankin/Bass)
Theatrical Live-action (Peter Jackson)
Television Live-action ...
We also need a really good video-game adaptation and a comic-book/graphic novel.
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
May 15 2017, 11:49pm
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If they're scared of dwindling interest after The Hobbit, then play safe and do a cartoon spin-off (like the old 90's cartoons - Ghostbusters, the Mask, Jumanji, Beetlejuice, Ace Ventura, Godzilla, Men in Black, Star Wars and all the Disney shows). they could even get Lego to produce it, for all the benefits of merchandising.
I think the best chance for another animated Middle-earth movie or other such project is a direct-to-video animated movie as a prequel or adaptation of Middle-earth video game. I was half-expecting one for Shadow of Mordor.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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Otaku-sempai
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May 15 2017, 11:55pm
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Also, a TV show seems like the logical next step when you consider LotR has been adapted into every other medium... Books (Tolkien) Radio Series (BBC) Theatrical Animation (Bakshi) Television Animation (Rankin/Bass) Theatrical Live-action (Peter Jackson) Television Live-action ... We also need a really good video-game adaptation and a comic-book/graphic novel.
There has already been the comic-book adaptation of The Hobbit originally published by Eclipse Comics and still available as a collected graphic novel. I am surprised that there still hasn't been a similar adaptation of The Lord of the Rings. I could see Dark Horse Comics (for example) taking it on if they could snag the license.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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Alientraveller
Lorien
May 16 2017, 7:13am
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Wouldn't an animated LOTR series in the vein of The Clone Wars and Rebels just be grand?
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Perhaps discussing that should be the third in my trilogy. TV animation has come such a long way now. I always thought The Silmarillion would be amazing as an anime, oops, mustn't bother discussing things that can't be used.
"Sure, it's not really The Lord of the Rings, but it could still be a pretty damn cool movie." - PJ
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
May 16 2017, 2:26pm
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Perhaps discussing that should be the third in my trilogy. TV animation has come such a long way now. I always thought The Silmarillion would be amazing as an anime, oops, mustn't bother discussing things that can't be used.
We can certainly discuss it, but it seems a little pointless, since there is almost no chance of The Silmarillion being adapted for television or film. The Silmarillion is presented in such a way that any such adaptation would have to have a very different tone from the book or it will come off more like a documentary than an epic tale. The Music of the Valar and The Account of the Valar would probably have to be only briefly summarized or excised entirely.
Adapting LotR as an animated series is an interesting idea, though I wonder how many problems it would present--pacing being a major issue.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes
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squire
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May 16 2017, 4:14pm
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You can't get rid of "Music of the Valar"!
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I mean, sure you can. But why would you?
I've always read that chapter with echoes in my head of the vastest symphonies and oratorios I've ever heard, like Handel's Messiah, Beethoven's Ninth, or Mahler's Eighth - as I fell sure Tolkien intended (and I believe there are a lot more out there than the chestnuts I know as a less-musical soul). It might seem daunting, but any producer worth his pay would commission a classical-style composer to produce a full-blown score that captures the narrative of this chapter, before doing anything else. Then he would get a director to film it, whether in animation, live-action, or whatever combination seemed most likely to evoke the actions and thoughts of Tolkien's God and his host of angels and proto-demons.
Now, I agree that's a lot of work. But to abandon this chapter and say we're adapting The Silmarillion without it is as much as to say The Silmarillion, as written, is unadaptable. Which, I believe, the Tolkien Estate and many critics agree with. But those who think the Silm is worth putting on film the way LotR was owe themselves and their audience an honest recognition of the material's problems, rather than writing off the "hard parts" or "the parts a modern audience just won't buy" in favor of what's generically recognizable about the stories (oh dear, more hairy men and fey Elves mucking about with swords and mock-medieval dialogue; which fantasy author is this one, again?).
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Meneldor
Valinor
May 18 2017, 4:46pm
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Now I'm picturing a sort of mash-up
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of the Silmarillion and Disney's Fantasia.
They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters, these see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep. -Psalm 107
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Darkstone
Immortal
May 18 2017, 5:34pm
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Nice articles!
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Once Radagast dreamt he was a moth, a moth flitting and fluttering around, happy with himself and doing as he pleased. He didn't know he was Radagast. Suddenly he woke up and there he was, solid and unmistakably Radagast. But he didn't know if he was Radagast who had dreamt he was a moth, or a moth dreaming he was Radagast. Between Radagast and a moth there must be some distinction! But really, there isn't, because he's actually Aiwendil dreaming he's both Radagast *and* a moth!
-From Radagasti: The Moth Dream
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