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Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 27 2017, 7:53pm

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Which character had these lines written but were not used:

"You forget to whom you speak.........sternly, and his eyes glinted. What do you fear that I should say " that a rascal of a rebel dwarf here that I would gladly exchange for a serviceable orc?"

A. Elrond
B. Gandalf
C. Legolas
D. Aragorn
E. Boromir


Ettelewen
Rohan

Jan 28 2017, 7:04pm

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OK, I'll bite... [In reply to] Can't Post

Aragorn? The line feels similar to others in the published work.


Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 28 2017, 7:55pm

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Since you are the only player despite the number of views I declare you [In reply to] Can't Post

THE WINNER!

JRRT at first wrote this line for Aragorn and then thought better of it.

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 28 2017, 8:29pm

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I’m curious [In reply to] Can't Post

Would you care to divulge where you found these sentences, and on what occasion would they have been uttered…
Thanks


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"You forget to whom you speak.........sternly, and his eyes glinted. What do you fear that I should say " that a rascal of a rebel dwarf here that I would gladly exchange for a serviceable orc?"


‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jan 28 2017, 11:05pm

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Ah, this delightful exchange-that-never-was-to-be! [In reply to] Can't Post

Aragorn's initial response after Gimli confronts him about whether he actually said anything to Sauron when they "met" in the Palantir.

I wonder if Tolkien wrote this down while giggling to himself, then wisely corrected it. Laugh


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Jan 28 2017, 11:15pm

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My dear Bracegirdle! [In reply to] Can't Post

They are, of course, from HoME, "The War of the Ring", page...uh, wait, let me look it up, it's been a while since I read these, there's sticky notes all over the pages...page 300. Smile


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


squire
Half-elven


Jan 28 2017, 11:41pm

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It's from the first edition of LotR [In reply to] Can't Post

The line is Aragorn's original retort to Gimli's astonished question on learning that Aragorn had looked into the Orthanc stone, ‘Did you say aught to - him? Even Gandalf feared that encounter.’

Tolkien revised Aragorn's rather acerbic reply in 1965 as one of a number of changes he made to the second edition, which most of us (!) are more used to.

According to Hammond and Scull, those extraordinary textual experts, Tolkien defended Aragorn's comment in an unpublished letter in 1963: "Tolkien wrote that Gimli should have known better than to question the action and judgement of the greatest Captain of Men and a superior strategist. Gimli's remark was silly and impertinent; but although Aragorn at this point in the story was under great stress, he original reply was more grim humour than serious rebuke. Nonetheless, Tolkien softened Aragorn's words in the second edition." - H&S, LotR Reader's Companion, 529.



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Ettelewen
Rohan

Jan 29 2017, 3:06am

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Thank you, thank you! [In reply to] Can't Post

A shot in the dark, but it felt right! Smile


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 29 2017, 3:37am

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Aha, *BG slaps forehead* [In reply to] Can't Post

Of course the ‘occasion’ is soo clear now.

As for the ‘where’ your “of course” takes for granted that I have HoME – I don’t Frown!
We’ll have to see to that. Seems I’m missing a lot. Mad

Thanks everyone for the clarification. Smile

‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 29 2017, 5:43am

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My actual source was a chapter note reference in [In reply to] Can't Post

The Road To Middle Earth by Tom Shippey.


Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 29 2017, 11:00pm

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New challenge, no cheating please, give your best off the top of your head answer! [In reply to] Can't Post

Consider these statements:

Golfimbul belonged to which elven kind?
What significant battle did he participate in?


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 29 2017, 11:40pm

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Golfimbul [In reply to] Can't Post

Does 'Orc' really count as an elven kind? Even Tolkien waffled on the subject.

Who doesn't remember the Battle of Greenfields? Wink

"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes


Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 30 2017, 5:17am

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Ah, you did not fall for the elvish sounding name! [In reply to] Can't Post

I was being trixsie......

It must have been too easy.

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Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jan 30 2017, 10:42am

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Easy-peasy [In reply to] Can't Post

It helps that 'golf' is in his name!

"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes


CuriousG
Half-elven


Jan 30 2017, 12:47pm

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Thanks for leading this, Eru! [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm late to the game, and wouldn't get the 1st one (I was sure it was Gandalf), but Golfimbul the orc raider of the Shire referenced in the Hobbit brought back a happy memory of how Tiger Woods' sport was invented.


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 30 2017, 2:27pm

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More importantly . . . [In reply to] Can't Post

Did Golfimbul’s head yell “Fore!” as it flew through the air? Or…

Did Bullroarer have to take a mulligan? Laugh

‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 30 2017, 7:02pm

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I believe "MulliGan" was Golfimbul's chief captain - "Khahdi" in Black Speech. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


CuriousG
Half-elven


Jan 30 2017, 9:26pm

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Oh, Brace [In reply to] Can't Post

Everyone knows you have to be quiet right before a golfer takes a swing. So I'm sure Golfimbul's head respected the rules--how could you possibly think otherwise?


Darkstone
Immortal


Jan 30 2017, 10:45pm

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Sparl Cackler was his Intelligence Officer [In reply to] Can't Post

"I got to get into this dude's pelt and crawl around for a few days. Who's the hobbit's ally. His friends. The harmless squirrel and the friendly rabbit.

"License to kill hobbits by the King of the Goblins. Man, free to kill hobbits at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case my enemy is a varmint. And a varmint will never quit - ever. They're like the Viet Cong - Varmint Cong. So you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower. And that's all she wrote."

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“Begone, foul dwimmerlaik, lord of carrion! Leave the dead in peace!"
"Come not between the Nazgul and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye."
"Do what you will; but I will hinder it, if I may."
"Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!"
"But no living man am I! I am Eowyn, daughter of Theodwyn!”
"Er, really? My mother's name was Theodwyn, too!"
"No way!"
"Way!"
"Wow! Let's stop fighting and be best friends!"
"Cool!!"

-Zack Snyder's The Return of the King


Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 30 2017, 10:56pm

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"Sparl lines up his shot with the new Gorgoroth sighting stick.....he is using [In reply to] Can't Post

his number 3 driver for this long fairway shot...."

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Bracegirdle
Valinor


Jan 30 2017, 11:07pm

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FYI – Golf & imble, & good points Curious – but . . . [In reply to] Can't Post


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Everyone knows you have to be quiet right before a golfer takes a swing.

Well, I used to play golf but quit when I accidentally wrapped my nine-iron around a poplar tree and it somehow took on a near ninety-degree angle. Often in those days a light clearing of the throat was used as an encouragement to your opponent just as he began his downswing. Cool


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So I'm sure Golfimbul's head respected the rules--how could you possibly think otherwise?

You got MY Curious up Wink and after an extensive search of the internet* I found that the rules in this FIRST game of golf were not yet firmed up, and the article tells us that interestingly Bullroarer also used a nine-iron and Golfimbul’s head did indeed yell “Fore!” as it closed in on the eighty-yard mark and he saw some innocent orc women and children having a picnic on the fairway. The article doesn’t explain why this disembodied head yelled “Fore!” and not “Watch Out!” or “Playing Through!” and was an enigmatic mystery for thousands of years. Yet the expletive remains to this very day, and false rumours persist that it refers to a warning to “Fore-caddies” that a ball/head? was on the way, when of course in the Third Age there were no Fore-caddies.

*It is a well-known fact that if it’s on the internet it MUST be true Angelic.

Added to say that the nineteen hole was always my favorite *Hic* Tongue

‘. . . the rule of no realm is mine . . .
But all worthy things that are in peril . . . those are my care.
For I also am a steward. Did you not know?'

Gandalf to Denethor




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dernwyn
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Jan 31 2017, 12:32am

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Of course it did. [In reply to] Can't Post

Every head has a "fore-head"...Tongue


"...But it was the Roi-Tanner maiden and her cronies who took the day's honors as they destroyed the remaining narcs. Arrowroot sought out Eorache through the melee and found her gleefully mincing a narc fully half her size and singing an old Roi-Tanner drinking song. She saw him wave timidly at her. She smiled, winked, and tossed him a round object.

'Hey! King! Catch!' Clumsily the Ranger fielded the souvenir. It was the head of a narc. Its final expression was one of extreme annoyance."


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


Eruonen
Valinor


Jan 31 2017, 2:28am

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This is a name for a LOTR character you all know - [In reply to] Can't Post

Who or what is "de hear fan alle hynders" - in a language JRRT probably was somewhat familiar with.
Or "te ariki o nga hoiho katoa" in a language he definitely did not know but in a round about way is connected to LOTR,

A. An orc?
B. A weapon?
C. A creature?
D. A dwarf?
E. An elf?


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dernwyn
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Feb 2 2017, 2:02am

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Well, I think he did visit that country! [In reply to] Can't Post

The former, not the latter, of course.

Sounds like Shadowfax you're describing, so the answer would be C. Or B, when he's working with Gandalf. Wink


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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"


Eruonen
Valinor


Feb 2 2017, 5:11am

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The Lord of all horses...Shadowfax. [In reply to] Can't Post

The first language is Western Frisian which is very similar to the Anglo-Saxon that JRRT knew so well. The second is Maori hence the New Zealand LOTR connection.

Good job! Which language did you solve or both?

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