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will there be more Middle Earth movies?
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Imladris18
Lorien


Nov 23 2016, 3:46pm

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The fact the he phrased it "Middle-earth gridlock" instead of something specifically relating to music or the Hobbit is interesting though. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's well known the future of any more Middle-earth movies is basically in gridlock with there not being more source material to legally pull from, and I haven't heard of any sort of issues with his Music of the Hobbit book, so who knows.

I'll remain very cautiously optimistic.



Silmaril
Rohan


Nov 23 2016, 4:37pm

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"No motion yet" [In reply to] Can't Post

The publishing of his second book and The Hobbit CRs were very uncertain, so maybe he meant this with "gridlock".

"I'm afraid no Hobbit CRs are in the planning stages at this time. Doesn't mean they'll never happen, but no motion yet."
https://twitter.com/DougAdamsMusic/status/654296799927246848



Imladris18
Lorien


Nov 23 2016, 4:40pm

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Ohh, good find. [In reply to] Can't Post

I'd be okay with that.



Silmaril
Rohan


Nov 26 2016, 9:11am

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Doug Adams tweeted again. [In reply to] Can't Post

Doug Adams tweeted that he is now officially working on the new book!


Glorfindela
Valinor


Dec 11 2016, 6:02pm

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I agree [In reply to] Can't Post


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I love PJ's Middle Earth movies and it hurts that all of the excitement and anticipation for a new project is over, but if the studios start with prequels, sequels, reboots, soft reboots there will be no end.

I mean that, studios are like factories these days. Movies get made from a meeting board to appeal to all demographics. For example Disney will produce STAR WARS and Marvel movies till 3017!!!! WB tries to do the same with DC and With Harry Potter. Fantastic beasts as i read from some article was like a reference in the original books and now they will make 5 movies from this (and they complained for the Hobbit to be three movies).

So, let the Middle Earth be, no more entries!!!!


Also because there is a growing tendency to make films generic to specific worldwide trends, thus removing originality from them. I mean, to me the Marvel films – apart from a couple that will no doubt be subsumed in the general banality in future episodes, mergings with other films' 'heroes', reboots or whatever – are basically all the same and completely unmemorable. Sadly, parts of the Hobbit even suffered from this 'globalisation' trend, comic-book references included. This was largely absent in LotR, a series of films I do consider very much original.

In addition, the actors who appeared in LotR – who were quite original in their own ways, rather than the standard celebrity fare generally employed today – would no longer be able to appear in any later films. Even the glassy-eyed Legolas (played by a relatively young actor) was a disaster for the Hobbit films as far as I'm concerned, and contributed a lot to my disappointment in them.


(This post was edited by Glorfindela on Dec 11 2016, 6:03pm)


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 11 2016, 6:48pm

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Re-using Actors [In reply to] Can't Post


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In addition, the actors who appeared in LotR – who were quite original in their own ways, rather than the standard celebrity fare generally employed today – would no longer be able to appear in any later films. Even the glassy-eyed Legolas (played by a relatively young actor) was a disaster for the Hobbit films as far as I'm concerned, and contributed a lot to my disappointment in them.


That's not entirely true. I could still, for example, imagine Hugo Weaving reprising Elrond. And, in a movie about Aragorn as a young man, Viggo Mortensen could play King Elessar telling the story of his early years to his children. The role of the younger Arwen might need to be recast.

"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes


Gimli1252
Bree


Dec 12 2016, 7:08am

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Lack of Originality ... [In reply to] Can't Post

And lack of restraint as well. In truth many on this forum, would like to see more movies based on Middle Earth.
Heck, I want to see a movie for the Hunt of Gollum. They can use some of the dwarves from the Hobbit, Thranduil, Tauriel, Legolas and so on.
You must be crazy if you don't want to see a movie about the Adventures of young Aragorn.
But the six movies we have right now are enough. Also, I doubt if Viggo will reprise his role again, even if it is only a cameo.

Said that, I think the production of Middle Earth movies is inevitable,
1) Because WB wants to hold the rights of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings and so they will be forced to make more movies,
2) Lord of the Rings is a popular brand to sell to the audiences around the world and make a very large profit.

''There is one dwarf yet in Moria, who still draws breath''


Glorfindela
Valinor


Dec 12 2016, 12:09pm

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It's called 'milking the cash cow', I believe [In reply to] Can't Post


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And lack of restraint as well. In truth many on this forum, would like to see more movies based on Middle Earth. You must be crazy if you don't want to see a movie about the Adventures of young Aragorn.
Said that, I think the production of Middle Earth movies is inevitable,
1) Because WB wants to hold the rights of the Hobbit and Lord of the Rings and so they will be forced to make more movies,
2) Lord of the Rings is a popular brand to sell to the audiences around the world and make a very large profit.


Sure they'll want to milk the cash cow as far as they can. But just because I don't want to see such bastardisations, which are increasingly further from the unique magic/style of Tolkien's work in their attempts to 'globalise' the subject (e.g. via 'the adventures of young Aragon',), using completely inappropriate vulgarity and comic-book standardisation, does not make me 'crazy', as you state.Angelic

Some people will no doubt accept more 'Middle-Earth' films at any cost. I won't. It's simply my own point of view.


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Gimli1252
Bree


Dec 12 2016, 12:24pm

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My bad... [In reply to] Can't Post

I phrased the word "you" generally, not for you personally...
Apologies, I agree with everything you said.

''There is one dwarf yet in Moria, who still draws breath''


Glorfindela
Valinor


Dec 12 2016, 1:10pm

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I see… [In reply to] Can't Post


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I phrased the word "you" generally, not for you personally...
Apologies, I agree with everything you said.


Oh, I see – OK. Wink


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 12 2016, 1:15pm

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Journeys & Errantries [In reply to] Can't Post


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Sure they'll want to milk the cash cow as far as they can. But just because I don't want to see such bastardisations, which are increasingly further from the unique magic/style of Tolkien's work in their attempts to 'globalise' the subject (e.g. via 'the adventures of young Aragon',), using completely inappropriate vulgarity and comic-book standardisation, does not make me 'crazy'...


I don't think poster GImli meant that last to be taken literally. I do think that any filmmaker committed to making a good movie about Aragorn's early travels could add some diversity to Middle-earth and remain wholly within the original canon. Tolkien did write that Aragorn wandered far in the East and South, encountering many different people both good and evil. The author was a bit vague on detail, but that may work to a screenwriter's or director's advantage.At some point he might even befriend a Dunlending in Rohan.

Yes, such a movie has the potential to be a disaster. However, it could instead be a triumph.

"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Dec 12 2016, 1:30pm)


Fake
The Shire


Dec 23 2016, 11:59pm

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I always thought... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that a good movie could be made, told through flashbacks, of The Council of Elrond. Fran, Phillipa and Peter could produce, and with the right director...just a thought.

Close to the edge, down by the river.




Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 24 2016, 5:35am

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I dunno about that. [In reply to] Can't Post

Do you mean the White Council? The Council of Elrond was the single gathering that took place days after Frodo reached Rivendell with the One Ring.

Mostly the White Council just met to discuss Sauron and his servants without taking much in the way of direct action. The main exception that I can think of is the Council of 2941, when Sauron as the Necromancer was driven out of Mirkwood. And we've already seen a version of that in Peter Jackson's The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies.

"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes

(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Dec 24 2016, 5:37am)


KingTurgon
Rohan


Mar 8 2017, 4:38pm

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Eventually [In reply to] Can't Post

I think there will be. The first six made too much money for there not to be. I personally am all for it!

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