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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 19 2016, 7:58pm
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My read is that the data from the Arctic and Antarctic should probably be collated and graphed separately.
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Ethel Duath
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Nov 19 2016, 8:34pm
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It won't let me go to the link.
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Apparently it's not available in the U.S.(?)
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 19 2016, 8:37pm
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The link works for me. Maybe it's your browser?
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Altaira
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Nov 19 2016, 10:40pm
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Sorry. I was thinking more of the disclaimer on the NSIDC site that I had read earlier:
The Near-real-time Ice and Snow Extent (NISE) data set provides daily, global maps of sea ice concentrations and snow extent. These data are not suitable for time series, anomalies, or trends analyses. They are meant to provide a best estimate of current ice and snow conditions based on information and algorithms available at the time the data are acquired. Near-real-time products are not intended for operational use in assessing sea ice conditions for navigation.
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N.E. Brigand
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Nov 21 2016, 5:25am
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So things look bleak, but perhaps not yet desperate.
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DanielLB
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Nov 21 2016, 7:03am
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And even my wife and my Mum ask my what the forecast is for tomorrow! "Look out the window" is my usual response.  I've also struggled to tell people what my job is. If I say "meteorologist" then people either talk about the Moon or weather forecasting and if I say "atmospheric scientist" I usually get blank stares back at me. I just stick to "scientist" now - nice and easy. And then we end up talking about clouds. But I guess this is a problem a lot of people face when they're asked what they do for a living. Everyone has some sort of pre-conception/stereotypical view of what a meteorologist, nurse, journalist, teacher, laborer, sales ... does.
Do you spend most of your time conducting research these days? Is it largely through instruments and computer models, or do you manage to get out in the field like that trip to South Georgia Island you went on a year or two ago (hope I got the name right)?
You are right, but I can't believe that was nearly 4 years ago! I haven't done any field work since, but I have managed to go to China and India for site visits. I only got back from India a couple of weeks ago - up at the top of Northern India near the Himalayas. Beautiful.
I rely on a lot of data already collected, and then compare that data to what is produced by a computer model. The basic idea being that the model which best matches the historical observations can be assumed to simulate (with some accuracy) the weather in the future (decades in the future, not days/weeks). Unfortunately, field work is just so expensive these days that you really need something groundbreaking to get funded to do field work. Releasing weather balloons, setting up weather stations or radar systems isn't particularly exiting for funders. 
Does this link work instead? I posted my last message from my phone, and I notice that Google is in the link address. Maybe if I link directly to the website you can see it?
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Starling
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Nov 21 2016, 7:11am
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But what is the weather doing tomorrow? I would like to take my dog for a walk after work...
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Silverlode
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Nov 21 2016, 10:50am
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For years, I've said there's such a thing as "earthquake weather" and have been scoffed at because I can't describe the feeling to those who don't feel it. It would be fascinating if someone actually proves scientifically that it's a real thing.
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Annael
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Nov 21 2016, 4:28pm
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a local meteorologist who is pretty good at being objective about this, says yes, it's not a matter of "is it happening" but "it's too late to stop it, so now we need to learn to deal with the consequences."
He has an interesting slant on the whole natural variability vs. anthropogenic influences:
http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/...limate-extremes.html
Basically he says "yes, natural variability plays a role, but the whole playing field has been shifted because of human influence."
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Starling
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Nov 21 2016, 5:18pm
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I used to hear people talk about 'earthquake weather' here
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I haven't heard anyone say it for years now. From my experience it is bunkum. As are all the silly theories about the moon. And whale strandings.
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Darkstone
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Nov 21 2016, 6:03pm
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So things look bleak, but perhaps not yet desperate.
"It shouldn't happen to a dog! Uh, I - I mean, it's a draw! Actually, the situation is hopeless, but not serious."
-Horst Buchholz, "One, Two, Three" (1961)
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Otaku-sempai
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Nov 21 2016, 9:11pm
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Speaking of science and scientists, parts of this discussion have reminded me of the following quote:
"If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right; but if he says that it is impossible, he is very probably wrong." - Arthur C. Clarke
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Darkstone
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Nov 22 2016, 3:42am
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One recalls Isaac Asimov's essay "The Relativity of Wrong". He points out there are degrees of wrongness. For example, the earth is not flat, nor is it a sphere, but the latter assertion is less wrong than the first.
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Ethel Duath
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Nov 22 2016, 4:58am
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I had no idea. Next, you'll be telling me your child is 16! 
It's really too bad that it's so rare to be able to go out there and monitor the real thing. But I'm jealous that you got to go near the Himalayas. I'm dying to do that sometime—get as close as I can anyway without keeling over from the altitude.
Yes! That link works. Thanks!
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DanielLB
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Nov 22 2016, 7:45am
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We welcomed another one into our family in June this year - 6 days after moving house.
I had no idea. Next, you'll be telling me your child is 16!
I didn't get particularly good pictures, unfortunately. So I don't have anything to share. I think my feet spent more time in a minibus than they did on Indian territory!
But I'm jealous that you got to go near the Himalayas.
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Starling
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Nov 22 2016, 7:58am
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This is vital info which has gone amiss! 
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Ethel Duath
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Nov 22 2016, 8:31pm
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So very happy for you, and the Mrs., and Little LB the First! But I don't envy you climbing over packing boxes looking for an emergency burp-cloth . . .
Anyway, here is the celebratory cake! (Kinda squashed and mushy-looking, but after all, I sent it through the Internet . . .)
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N.E. Brigand
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Nov 22 2016, 10:59pm
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The youngest of The Magnificent Seven. The second-youngest, and the last, Robert Vaughn, died earlier this month. I met him about ten years ago when he appeared in a production of Trumbo: Red, White, and Blacklisted, playing the title character, the screenwriter Dalton Trumbo.
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Kim
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Nov 23 2016, 4:50am
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Wow - congratulations Daniel! //
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dernwyn
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Nov 23 2016, 2:41pm
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And what timing - I hope you moved to a larger place!
How has your family "weathered" these changes?
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DanielLB
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Nov 24 2016, 2:53pm
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Her older brother absolutely adores her. We were worried he would get jealous, have lots of tantrums, that kind of thing. But he's been a star.
And, the best thing is ... they both sleep through the night! They both have done from about 8-10 weeks onwards. 
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