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CuriousG
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Jul 19 2016, 12:31am
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It helps explain why Boromir and Eomer (and their countries) feared Galadriel, seeing a dark side to her, the way real people fear fairy folk living in the woods, always up to no good.
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squire
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Jul 24 2016, 1:57am
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Funny that the writer couldn't get either Shippey or Flieger to agree with the publisher's nonsensical puffery about Galadriel being a Corrigan.
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HarperCollins said: “The sequence shows the Corrigan’s increasingly powerful presence, as she takes an ever more active role in the lives of Aotrou and Itroun … She would finally emerge, changed in motive and character but still recognisable, in The Lord of the Rings as the beautiful and terrible Lady of the Golden Wood, the Elven queen Galadriel.”
Doubtless Galadriel in The Lord of the Rings has the reputation, among those who never meet her, of being an entrancing and perilous Faerie Queen. But the magic of Galadriel's character is that, in Tolkien's typical fashion, he penetrates to the core of a mythology and explores what a Faerie Queen might "really" be like. The result has as little to do with the traditional Irish Corrigan portrayed in The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun as can be imagined. It's like comparing Hobbits to leprechauns, or Gimli to Rumpelstiltskin, or the One Ring to the Ring of the Nibelungs.
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geordie
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Jul 24 2016, 9:27am
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- I've a copy of Tolkien's original poem, in the Welsh Review, and I see no comparison between Galadriel and the Corrigan.
People seem too fond of looking for 'influences' for Tolkien's works; whether in old writings, or in locations. Someone walks through a wood and it reminds them of something they read in Tolkien (or more likely, seen in the movies) because whenever there's the headline 'Was Tolkien influenced by (insert name here) there's usually a still from one or other of the movies to accompany the piece. But what most people (except Shippey) overlook is Tolkien's love for Language, and this goes deep into his creativity.
When I read the poem I'm put in mind of a paper which Tolkien had published in 1925, while he was teaching at Leeds. It's called 'Some Contributions to Middle English Lexicography', and in this paper Tolkien looks at some words and phrases in Middle English which scholars had found vexing. For instance, the word 'medi'. The conventional wisdom up to that point was that this was a mis-spelling of 'medl', thus the first recorded use of the word 'meddle'. The phrase it's used in is 'medi mid wicchen', usually translated as 'meddle with witches' (or wizards, I like to suppose). 
But no, said Tolkien - the spelling is correct, it reads 'medi mid wicchen', as in 'bribe, purchase the services of witches'. The idea being that it is wrong or evil to deal or barter with witches, and as I say, I have this phrase very much in the front of my mind whenever I read of Lord Aoutrou and the Corrigan.
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