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Wainrider
Rivendell
May 13 2016, 4:53am
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Elvish Glossary?
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I was excited recently to see that someone came out with a Sindarin/English dictionary, but unfortunately a lot of reviews said it was very inaccurate. That got me thinking, maybe we should have a section on this forum for different middle-earth languages, or at least a thread with a glossary of common words in Elvish (sindarin) and possibly other MIddle Earth languages? I know some elements of Sindarin place names, but it would be nice to be able to learn some real words.
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
May 13 2016, 7:07am
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I wonder if you saw the same one that I have by Ruth Noels. Unfortunately, my copy was misplaced in our last move; instead, I've been using the Elvish glossary from the MERP Campaign Guide. which cites the other book as a source.
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes, the "Gossiper of the Gods"
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Ostadan
Rivendell
May 13 2016, 4:27pm
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Ruth Noel's book is very amateurish. It came out shortly after The Silmarillion, and was not well received among fans who had any knowledge at all about the subject. Jim Allen's 'Introduction to Elvish' book, completed _before_ there was access to the additional material in The Silmarillion, was actually better (and, if memory serves, Christopher Tolkien actually used it as a reference when preparing the History of Middle-earth). Alas, it is long out of print. David Salo's 'Gateway to Sindarin' is extensive, but he makes a great deal of conjecture, some of it pretty dubious; and, more annoyingly, doesn't 'show his work' by distinguishing his own interpolations, words mined from not-quite-Sindarin sources like 'The Etymologies', and words attested in The Lord of the Rings (or later publications like the Road Goes Ever On songbook appendix). At all times, keep in mind that Sindarin was never intended to be in any sense a 'complete' language, either in vocabulary or grammar. See the essay, 'Elvish as She Is Spoke' (http://www.elvish.org/articles/EASIS.pdf) for a discussion of this topic.
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Wainrider
Rivendell
May 27 2016, 2:17am
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I have tried to put together a glossary of Sindarin place name elements. I don't know much elvish, so I'm sure there's mistakes in here, but this will hopefully be useful to some people. Feel free to make constructive corrections. Sindarin Geographical Terms Aer- Sea/Ocean Amon (plural Emyn)- Hill, Mountain Ardhon- Province/Region Athrad- Ford Bel- Beach Cerin- Mound Cirith- Pass Dol- Hill Duin- River Dor- Land Eryn- Forest Falas- Bay Haudh- Mound/Burial ian(d/iath/ith)- Land/Country ian/ien/ion- Place/Land Lad- Plain or Valley Loeg- Field Lond- Harbor Nan- Valley Nen- Water/Lake Orod (plural Ered)- Mountain Parth- Lawn/Field Sir- River Sarn- Rocky/Rapids Tol- Island Taur-Forest Tum- Valley
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Otaku-sempai
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May 27 2016, 3:51am
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Let's see if I can supplement your list a bit: Sindarin Geographical Terms aelin - lake; pool aer- sea/ocean (can't confirm) airë - (Q.) sea aikalë - peak amon (plural emyn) - kill, mountain arda - (Q.) realm ardhon - province/region (can't confirm) arthë - (S.) realm arta - (Q.) walled place, fort, fortress athrad - ford band - prison, duress bar - dwelling barad (pl. beraid) - tower bel - beach (can't confirm; (S.) divine) cabed - gorge, leap caras - city cerin - mound (can't confirm) cirith - pass (terrain) coron - (Q.) mound dol - head, hill summit dôr - land duin- (long) river eithel - well, spring ephel - outer fence eryn - wood, forest ethir - outflow, delta falas - coast, shore, line of surf felag - cave gaer - sea gond - stone grod - delving, underground dwelling habar - digging, excavation hahta - (Q.) mound haudh - burial mound ian(d/iath/ith) - Land/Country ian/ien/ion - Place/Land lad - plain, valley loeg- pool(s) lond (lonn) - harbor, haven loss - snow minas - tower nan(d) - (Q.) valley nen - (Q.) water, pool, lake, lagoon orod (pl. ered) - mountain parth - field, sward pin(nath) - ridge(s), slope(s) rais - peaks ram(mas) - wall rant - course (as in river course) ras (pl. rais) - horn (as in mountain peak) rast - shore, strand rath - river bed or street rond - dome, vaulted or arched roof, roofed chamber sarn - (small) stone sîr- river talath - flat lands, plains taur - wood, forest tharbad - crossway thiach (siach) - ford tol (pl. tollë) - isle, island tum (tumbo) - (Q.) valley umb - hollow (noun)
"He who lies artistically, treads closer to the truth than ever he knows." -- Favorite proverb of the wizard Ningauble of the Seven Eyes, the "Gossiper of the Gods"
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