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Red Book Of Westmarch re-translated: controversy! Lawsuits!

noWizardme
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Apr 10 2016, 10:30am

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Using my knowledge of Adûni, Quenya, and Sindarin, and the unauthorized copy of the Red Book, I undertook my translation. My goal was never to match Tolkien’s masterful prose, but to provide a more literal translation into English and fix Tolkien’s errors. I also wanted to restore the real names of the characters and settings, in place of Tolkien’s whimsical anglicizations. You won’t find Frodo Baggins or Samwise Gamgee of the Shire in my version of The Lord of the Rings. You’ll find Maura Labingi and Banazîr Galbasi of Sûzat....

Tolkien explicitly stated in the appendices of The Lord of the Rings that he was merely translating the Red Book of Westmarch, not writing an original story. Since Tolkien claimed the Red Book is over 6,000 years old, it must be in the public domain and so open to everyone to reinterpret and repurpose as they see fit. The Red Book didn’t belong to the Tolkien Estate, it belonged to the world.

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sador
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Apr 10 2016, 1:46pm

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Excellent! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


squire
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Apr 10 2016, 2:34pm

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Funny! [In reply to] Can't Post

But I felt he doesn't take it far enough.



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Eldy
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Apr 10 2016, 4:52pm

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I got a good laugh out of that [In reply to] Can't Post

I recently discovered some of Gilkeson's other pieces; he's pretty good.

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squire
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Apr 10 2016, 5:31pm

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Thanks for those links [In reply to] Can't Post

He really is fun to read, and he sure knows his Tolkien lore.



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grammaboodawg
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Apr 11 2016, 12:30pm

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Lissuin
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Apr 12 2016, 8:35am

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PJ was absolutely justified in leaving Tom Bombadil out of LOTR! Here's that (snap!), all ye grumblers!


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Translating the Red Book led to more than a few surprises. I discovered that the Tom Bombadil chapters weren’t original to the text at all, but had been inserted by a different author at a later date. They’re written in the Adûni dialect of Bree, not Sûzat, and judging by the sloppy handwriting, whoever wrote them was almost certainly drunk, a child, or both.


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