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grammaboodawg
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Mar 30 2016, 8:08am

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Today in Middle-earth

March 30, 2942 (S.R. 1342)
1. Bilbo and Gandalf rest at Beorn's house.
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... There was no shortage of wonderful food, warm evenings in front of the huge fire in the hall, and a chance for three great story-tellers to share their tales. But Bilbo's longing for his own chair and fire at Bag End grew. He would spend long hours in the quiet room given to him by Beorn. This is where he began his first journal, and he would write page upon page of his adventures since he left the Mountain, as well as many reflective moments of the Shire.




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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 30 2016, 12:58pm

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Is that text your own, gramma? It isn't from the book.

"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."


- Dream of the Endless


Bracegirdle
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Mar 30 2016, 2:11pm

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Gramma’s text I betcha – and beautifully done [In reply to] Can't Post

But I wonder about the date? I know you’re the one to ask . . .

The book says:
Anyway by mid-winter Gandalf and Bilbo had come all the way back, . . . to the doors of Beorn’s house . . .; and Yule-tide was warm and merry there . . .

Wouldn’t mid-winter or Yule-tide be the end of Dec. & beginning of Jan.?
Wouldn’t March 30 (say April 1) be considered the end of winter and the beginning of springtime?

"I never said most of the things I said."
- Yogi & Me




Otaku-sempai
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Mar 30 2016, 3:07pm

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She covered Yuletide back in December/January [In reply to] Can't Post

Gramma is just setting up Bilbo and Gandalf to resume their journey back to the Shire. They must have left Beorn's house sometime in early April in order to reach Rivendell by 1 May.

"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."


- Dream of the Endless


Bracegirdle
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Mar 30 2016, 3:37pm

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Rethinking, and a reprieve for Gramma's March 30 date [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo, Gandalf, and Beorn reached Beorn’s house at Yuletide (which I assume as one of the non-weekday days between the end of Dec. and the beginning of Jan.), and there for a while they stayed. “A while” being about three months.

Thus they could have still been at Beorn’s on March 30 when Bilbo was writing his journal, but they (Gandalf & Bilbo) must have left very soon after March 30 (as you say) to reach Rivendell by May 1 (where they stayed for one week). Then continuing their leisurely journey and reaching Hobbiton on June 22, about six weeks out from Rivendell.

Ok, I think I’ve got my head on straight. Thanks! Smile

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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 30 2016, 3:54pm

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More or Less [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo, Gandalf and Beorn reached Beorn's house in time for Yuletide, which is the six-day period from December 29 to January 2 including the two days of Yule. That is not to say that they couldn't have arrived a few days earlier.

"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."


- Dream of the Endless


Bracegirdle
Valinor


Mar 30 2016, 9:20pm

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Right - I need to read my Appendix more often [In reply to] Can't Post

"Yuletide" is not only 1 and 2 Yule, but as you say the 2 last days of Dec. and the 2 first days of Jan. (6 days)

"I never said most of the things I said."
- Yogi & Me




grammaboodawg
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Mar 31 2016, 10:32am

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:) Thank you!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Yeah, it's a bit of my dibbling around to fill in the day. I just love thinking about Gandalf and Bilbo at Beorn's. Such different personalities finding common ground after enduring a hard time.




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grammaboodawg
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Mar 31 2016, 10:38am

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I appreciate this so much! [In reply to] Can't Post

Today is my last day of work as I begin my retirement tomorrow on April Fool's Day! Very appropriate, imho. But one of the first things I'm going to do this summer is start re-vamping The Hobbit TIME entries thanks to all of this input and guidance. *cracks knuckles* It's going to be a bit of a mess as I chase the ripple effect on the Google TIME calendars... but I'm up for it thanks to these notes from you, Otaku-sempai, and others :)

Tally-ho!




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grammaboodawg
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Mar 31 2016, 10:39am

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It's time for some BS! [In reply to] Can't Post

As the Fellowship finally has a bit of a rest, here's a Book Spoiler of a strategy debate between Frodo and Faramir... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From The Forbidden Pool: The Two Towers


..."'Frodo, I think you do very unwisely in this,' said Faramir. 'I do not think you should go with this creature. It is wicked.'
... 'No, not altogether wicked,' said Frodo.
... 'Not wholly, perhaps... ...but malice eats it like a canker, and the evil is growing. He will lead you to no good. If you will part with him, I will give him safe-conduct... ...to any point on the borders of Gondor that he may name.'
... 'He would not take it,' said Frodo. 'He would follow after me as he long has done. And I have promised many times to take him under my protection and to go where he led. You would not ask me to break faith with him?'
... 'No... ...But my heart would. For it seems less evil to counsel another man to break troth than to do so oneself, especially if one sees a friend bound unwitting to his own harm. But no—if he will go with you, you must now endure him. But I do not think you are holden to go to Cirith Ungol... ...he has told you less than he knows. That much I perceived clearly in his mind. Do not go to Cirith Ungol!'
... 'Where then shall I go... ...Back to the Black Gate and deliver myself up to the guard? What do you know against this place that makes its name so dreadful?'
... 'Nothing certain,' said Faramir. 'We of Gondor do not ever pass east of the Road in these days, and none of us younger men... ...we know only old report and the rumour of bygone days. But there is some dark terror that dwells in the passes above Minas Morgul. If Cirith Ungol is named, old men and masters of lore will blanch and fall silent....
... ...it seemed empty and was not so, for a shapeless fear lived within the ruined walls. Nine Lords there were, and after the return of their Master... ...they grew strong again. Then the Nine Riders issued forth from the gates of horror, and we could not withstand them. Do not approach their citadel. You will be espied. It is a place of sleepless malice, full of lidless eyes. Do not go that way!'
... 'But where else will you direct me?' said Frodo. 'You cannot yourself... ...guide me to the mountains, nor over them. But over the mountains I am bound, by solemn undertaking to the Council, to find a way or perish in the seeking. And if I turn back, refusing the road in its bitter end, where then shall I go among Elves or Men? Would you have me come to Gondor with this Thing... ...that drove your brother mad with desire? What spell would it work in Minas Tirith? Shall there be two cities of Minas Morgul, grinning at each other across a dead land filled with rottenness?'
... 'I would not have it so...'
... '...Then what would you have me do?'
... 'I know not. Only I would not have you go to death or to torment. And I do not think that Mithrandir would have chosen this way.'... 'Yet since he is gone, I must take such paths as I can find. And there is no time for long searching,' said Frodo."




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dernwyn
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Mar 31 2016, 1:13pm

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TODAY? [In reply to] Can't Post

Omigosh, already?

Are they throwing you a big party, gramma? Cool


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Bracegirdle
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Mar 31 2016, 1:19pm

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HAPPY RETIREMENT GRAMMA [In reply to] Can't Post

May it be filled with rolling green hills, and blue skies
May it be long and productive-
But most of all . . . . . . . . . FUN!
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"I never said most of the things I said."
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Otaku-sempai
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Mar 31 2016, 1:23pm

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Congratulations on your retirement! [In reply to] Can't Post

I hope that you can take full advantage of any opportunities that your retirement brings to you.

"Things need not to have happened to be true.
Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure
when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."


- Dream of the Endless


Ettelewen
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Mar 31 2016, 2:06pm

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Yay! [In reply to] Can't Post

Congratulations, Gramma, enjoy.

I'm looking forward to your future installments in this series also!

Cool


Lily Fairbairn
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Mar 31 2016, 2:43pm

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Heart Congratulations on your retirement! You've certainly earned all the rest and recreation you can get! Smile

Where now the horse and the rider? Where is the horn that was blowing?
Where is the helm and the hauberk, and the bright hair flowing?
Where is the hand on the harpstring, and the red fire glowing?
Where is the spring and the harvest and the tall corn growing?
They have passed like rain on the mountain, like a wind in the meadow;
The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow....


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Mar 31 2016, 6:20pm

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Congrats, gramma! [In reply to] Can't Post

What a milestone to reach. Have a blast doing exactly what you want to! Heart

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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entmaiden
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Mar 31 2016, 8:40pm

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What a wonderful milestone! You've worked hard for this, and I'm so glad the day is here. Sleep in tomorrow, and spend the entire day in your pajamas. Wink


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Mar 31 2016, 8:49pm

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Congrats gramma! [In reply to] Can't Post

Ready for another adventure? Cool

Silverlode

Roads go ever ever on
Under cloud and under star
Yet feet that wandering have gone
Turn at last to home afar.
Eyes that fire and sword have seen
And horror in the halls of stone
Look at last on meadows green
And trees and hills they long have known.




cats16
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Mar 31 2016, 10:07pm

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Congrats, gramma! [In reply to] Can't Post

Hope you enjoy every second of retirement (not that I'm worried you won't Wink)!

Join us every weekend in the Hobbit movie forum for this week's CHOW (Chapter of the Week) discussion!




grammaboodawg
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Apr 1 2016, 2:34pm

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It's time for some April Fools BS!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Are you April Foolish enough to take on a game?

I did a Book Spoiler hunt on how many different ways and times and where the word "fool" was used by Professor Tolkien in The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Take a look at how FOOLISH it is in Middle-earth...for a moment or two of Tolkien-zen.

Can you guess which chapters any or all of these came from?
Who said the foolish word (where not shown)?
Which chapter was the most foolish?
Which chapters weren't foolish at all?

The Lord of the Rings (sans Appendices)
  1. "They fool about with boats on that big river—and that isn't natural."
  2. "I believe that Mad Baggins is off again. Silly old fool."
  3. "Gandalf stood up. He spoke sternly. 'You will be a fool if you do, Bilbo,' he said. 'You make that clearer with every word you say."
  4. "Well, as for the name, Bilbo very foolishly told Gollum himself..."
  5. "Wretched fool! In that land he would learn much, too much for his comfort."
  6. "Don't be a fool! What have you heard, and why did you listen?"
  7. "...feeling that amazement could go no further, and quite unable to decide whether he felt angry, amused, relieved, or merely foolish."
  8. "Tell me, if my asking does not seem foolish, who is Tom Bombadil?"
  9. "Frodo suddenly felt very foolish, and found himself (as was his habit when making a speech) fingering the things in his pocket."
  10. "Frodo felt a fool. Not knowing what else to do, he crawled away..."
  11. "...why on earth did we behave so foolishly..."
  12. "You have a stout heart,' he said; 'but it was foolish."
  13. "He bitterly regretted his foolishness, and reproached himself for weakness of will..."
  14. "Radagast the Fool!"
  15. "You need not speak to me as to one of the fools that you take for friends."
  16. "If this delay was his fault, I will melt all the butter in him. I will roast the old fool over a slow fire."
  17. "Ass! Fool! Thrice worthy and beloved Barliman!"
  18. "...if that does not shatter them, and I am allowed a little peace from foolish questions, I will seek for the opening words."
  19. "Fool of a Took!' he growled. 'This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking party."
  20. "It may have nothing to do with Peregrin's foolish stone; but probably something has been disturbed that would have been better left quiet."
  21. "So ended the attempt to retake Moria! It was valiant but foolish."
  22. "Fly, you fools!"
  23. "A merry troop of fools we shall look!"
  24. "Fool! Obstinate fool! Running willfully to death and ruining our cause."
  25. "...there came to his mind another thought: Take it off! Take it off! Fool, take it off! Take off the Ring!"
  26. "...let Gimli the Dwarf Glóin's son warn you against foolish words."
  27. "Rest while you can, little fool!"
  28. "Saruman is a fool, and a dirty treacherous fool."
  29. "You fools! You should have shot him. He'll raise the alarm."
  30. "You went in a hurry. Did you leave anything behind?' 'I left a fool,' snarled Grishnákh."
  31. "My dear tender little fools..."
  32. "We keep off strangers and the foolhardy..."
  33. "So the forces that he has long been preparing he is now setting in motion, sooner than he intended. Wise fool."
  34. "Foolishness!' said Gandalf. 'Prudence is one thing, but discourtesy is another."
  35. "That fool, Háma, has betrayed us!"
  36. "But you speak like a fool. Do you think those halls are fair, where your King dwells...?"
  37. "Get up, you tom-fool of a Took! Where, in the name of wonder, in all this ruin is Treebeard?"
  38. "I am no fool, and I do not trust you, Gandalf."
  39. "Do not be a fool. If you wish to treat with me, while you have a chance, go away, and come back when you are sober!"
  40. "You have become a fool, Saruman, and yet pitiable."
  41. "Unhappy fool! He will be devoured, if the power of the East stretches out its arms to Isengard."
  42. "You idiotic fool!' Pippin muttered to himself. 'You're going to get yourself into frightful trouble."
  43. "A fool, but an honest fool, you remain, Peregrin Took."
  44. "Yet he must bear the blame. Fool! to keep it secret, for his own profit."
  45. "Oh yes, you had,' said Gandalf. 'You knew you were behaving wrongly and foolishly; and you told yourself so, though you did not listen."
  46. "You revealed yourself to me just now, foolishly."
  47. "Silly hobbits, foolish, yes foolish! They mustn't do it!"
  48. "Don't you go taking advantage of my master because his servant's no better than a fool."
  49. "Not here, no. Not rest here. Fools! Eyes can see us."
  50. "Foolish! Silly!' he hissed. 'Make haste!"
  51. "Very foolish, very dangerous--if poor Sméagol wasn't sneaking about to watch."
  52. "You fool,' snarled Shagrat. 'You've been talking very clever..."
  53. "You fool, he isn't dead, and your heart knew it."
  54. "...you must pardon my foolishness.' 'I do,' said Pippin. 'Though you are not far wrong."
  55. "Counsels may be found that are neither the webs of wizards nor the haste of fools."
  56. "... most surely not for any argument would he have set this thing at a hazard beyond all but a fool's hope..."
  57. "There never was much hope,' he answered. 'Just a fool's hope, as I have been told."
  58. "Maybe even your foolishness helped, my lad."
  59. "The fool's hope has failed."
  60. "Follow whom you will, even the Grey Fool, though his hope has failed."
  61. "Why do the fools fly?"
  62. "...I want to see Gandalf very much indeed. But he is no fool..."
  63. "Old fool!' he said to Gandalf. 'Old fool! This is my hour."
  64. "Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!"
  65. "Nay, I have seen more than thou knowest, Grey Fool."
  66. "...thou shalt see what comes to him who sets his foolish webs before the feet of Sauron the Great."
  67. "Don't be a fool, Sam Gamgee,' came an answer in his own voice."
  68. "You are the fool, going on hoping and toiling."
  69. "... you Shirriffs look a lot of Tom-fools."
  70. "I told Sharkey it was no good trusting those little fools."
  71. "You are a ruffian and a fool."
  72. "Miserable fool, but I am sorry for him."
  73. "He has been a wicked fool, but he's caught now."
  74. "...all of them except perhaps one or two rascals, and a few fools that want to be important..."
  75. "He knew too little of hobbits to understand his peril. Foolishly he decided to fight."
  76. "Only that fool Ted was pleased by that..."
  77. "I don't believe that fool of a Pimple's behind all this."
  78. "Don't waste any more words on the fool, Sam!"
  79. "...if they're such fools, I will get ahead of them and teach them a lesson."


The Hobbit
  1. "Bilbo, you were a fool; you walked right in and put your foot in it."
  2. "Don't be a fool, Bilbo Baggins!" he said to himself, "thinking of dragons and all that outlandish nonsense at your age!"
  3. "You're a fat fool, William..."
  4. "...Thorin and his friends think them foolish (which is a very foolish thing to think)"
  5. "Don't be a fool Mr. Baggins if you can help it..."
  6. "The dwarves were inclined to grumble at this, but the wizard told them they were fools."
  7. "Some of the more foolish ran out of the hut as if they expected the Mountain to go golden in the night..."
  8. "Dear me, what a fool I was and am!"
  9. "Staggering!" exclaimed Bilbo aloud, but what he thought inside was: "Old fool!"
  10. "Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!"
  11. "The dragon is coming or I am a fool!"
  12. "... not the most foolish doubted that the prophecies had gone rather wrong."
  13. "Why waste words and wrath on those unhappy creatures?"
  14. "Such a fool deserves to starve"
  15. "Fools!" laughed Bard, "to come thus beneath the Mountain's..."
  16. "You are a fool, Bilbo Baggins, and you made a great mess of that business with the stone..."


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grammaboodawg
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Apr 1 2016, 2:37pm

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Here are the locations. The page numbers may vary according to which edition you're accessing... but they're around these page numbers somewhere ;)

The Lord of the Rings – A variation of FOOL was used 79 times
The Hobbit – A variation of FOOL was used 16 times

**Which chapter was the most foolish?
.......The Lord of the Rings: The Scouring of the Shire (11 times)
.......The Hobbit – There's a tie: Inside Information (3 times) and Fire and Water (3 times)

**Which chapters did these came from and who said them?
[Be aware that different editions may have the text falling on a different page number.]

The Lord of the Rings (sans Appendices)

1. "They fool about with boats on that big river—and that isn't natural.""
.......pg 45 I A Long-Expected Party by the Gaffer
2. "I believe that Mad Baggins is off again. Silly old fool.""
.......pg 56 I A Long-Expected Party by Rory Brandybuck
3. "Gandalf stood up. He spoke sternly. 'You will be a fool if you do, Bilbo,' he said. 'You make that clearer with every word you say.'"
.......pg 60 A Long-Expected Party by Gandalf
4. "Well, as for the name, Bilbo very foolishly told Gollum himself...'"
.......pg 89 The Shadow of the Past by Gandalf
5. "Wretched fool! In that land he would learn much, too much for his comfort.'"
.......pg 91 The Shadow of the Past by Gandalf
6. "Don't be a fool! What have you heard, and why did you listen?"
.......pg 97 The Shadow of the Past by Gandalf
7. "...feeling that amazement could go no further, and quite unable to decide whether he felt angry, amused, relieved, or merely foolish."
.......pg 150 A Conspiracy Unmasked by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding Frodo
8. "Tell me, if my asking does not seem foolish, who is Tom Bombadil?'"
.......pg 173 In the House of Tom Bombadil (1) by Frodo
9. "Frodo suddenly felt very foolish, and found himself (as was his habit when making a speech) fingering the things in his pocket."
.......pg 216 At the Sign of the Prancing Pony by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding Frodo
10. "Frodo felt a fool. Not knowing what else to do, he crawled away..."
.......pg 219 At the Sign of the Prancing Pony by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding Frodo
11. "...why on earth did we behave so foolishly...'"
.......pg 224 Strider by Frodo
12. "You have a stout heart,' he said; 'but it was foolish.'"
.......pg 235 Strider by Strider
13. "He bitterly regretted his foolishness, and reproached himself for weakness of will..."
.......pg 266 Flight to the Ford by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding Frodo
14. "Radagast the Fool!'"
.......pg 338 The Council of Elrond by Saruman
15. "You need not speak to me as to one of the fools that you take for friends.'"
.......pg 339 The Council of Elrond by Saruman
16. "If this delay was his fault, I will melt all the butter in him. I will roast the old fool over a slow fire.'"
.......pg 345 The Council of Elrond by Gandalf
17. "Ass! Fool! Thrice worthy and beloved Barliman!'"
.......pg 345 The Council of Elrond by Gandalf
18. "...if that does not shatter them, and I am allowed a little peace from foolish questions, I will seek for the opening words.'"
.......pg 400 A Journey in the Dark by Gandalf
19. "Fool of a Took!' he growled. 'This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking party.'"
.......pg 408 A Journey in the Dark by Gandalf
20. "It may have nothing to do with Peregrin's foolish stone; but probably something has been disturbed that would have been better left quiet.'"
.......pg 408 A Journey in the Dark by Gandalf
21. "So ended the attempt to retake Moria! It was valiant but foolish.'"
.......pg 419 The Bridge of Khazad-dûm by Gandalf
22. "Fly, you fools!'"
.......pg 430 The Bridge of Khazad-dûm by Gandalf
23. "A merry troop of fools we shall look!'"
.......pg 451 Lothlórien by Gimli
24. "Fool! Obstinate fool! Running willfully to death and ruining our cause.'"
.......pg 516 The Breaking of the Fellowship by Boromir
25. "...there came to his mind another thought: Take it off! Take it off! Fool, take it off! Take off the Ring!"
.......pg 519 The Breaking of the Fellowship by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien and Gandalf regarding Frodo
26. "...let Gimli the Dwarf Glóin's son warn you against foolish words.'"
.......pg 42 Riders of Rohan by Gimli
27. "Rest while you can, little fool!'"
.......pg 59 The Uruk-hai by a random Orc
28. "Saruman is a fool, and a dirty treacherous fool.'"
.......pg 61 The Uruk-hai by Grishnákh
29. "You fools! You should have shot him. He'll raise the alarm.'"
.......pg 63 The Uruk-hai presumably by Uglúk
30. "You went in a hurry. Did you leave anything behind?' 'I left a fool,' snarled Grishnákh.'"
.......pg 68 The Uruk-hai by Grishnákh
31. "My dear tender little fools...'"
.......pg 74 The Uruk-hai by Grishnákh
32. "We keep off strangers and the foolhardy...'"
.......pg 89 Treebeard by Treebeard
33. "So the forces that he has long been preparing he is now setting in motion, sooner than he intended. Wise fool.'"
.......pg 127 The White Rider by Gandalf
34. "Foolishness!' said Gandalf. 'Prudence is one thing, but discourtesy is another.'"
.......pg 147 The King of the Golden Hall by Gandalf
35. "That fool, Háma, has betrayed us!'"
.......pg 151 The King of the Golden Hall by Grima Wormtongue
36. "But you speak like a fool. Do you think those halls are fair, where your King dwells...?'"
.......pg 193 The Road to Isengard by Gimli
37. "Get up, you tom-fool of a Took! Where, in the name of wonder, in all this ruin is Treebeard?'"
.......pg 223 Flotsam and Jetsam by Gandalf
38. "I am no fool, and I do not trust you, Gandalf.'"
.......pg 239 The Voice of Saruman by Saruman
39. "Do not be a fool. If you wish to treat with me, while you have a chance, go away, and come back when you are sober!'"
.......pg 240 The Voice of Saruman by Saruman
40. "You have become a fool, Saruman, and yet pitiable.'"
.......pg 241 The Voice of Saruman by Gandalf
41. "Unhappy fool! He will be devoured, if the power of the East stretches out its arms to Isengard.'"
.......pg 242 The Voice of Saruman by Gandalf
42. "You idiotic fool!' Pippin muttered to himself. 'You're going to get yourself into frightful trouble.'"
.......pg 251 The Palantír by Pippin
43. "A fool, but an honest fool, you remain, Peregrin Took.'"
.......pg 254 The Palantír by Gandalf
44. "Yet he must bear the blame. Fool! to keep it secret, for his own profit.'"
.......pg 259 The Palantír by Gandalf
45. "Oh yes, you had,' said Gandalf. 'You knew you were behaving wrongly and foolishly; and you told yourself so, though you did not listen.'"
.......pg 260 The Palantír by Gandalf
46. "You revealed yourself to me just now, foolishly.'"
.......pg 314 The Black Gate Is Closed by Frodo
47. "Silly hobbits, foolish, yes foolish! They mustn't do it!'"
.......pg 331 Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit by Sméagol/Gollum
48. "Don't you go taking advantage of my master because his servant's no better than a fool.'"
.......pg 366 The Window on the West by Sam
49. "Not here, no. Not rest here. Fools! Eyes can see us.'"
.......pg 399 The Stairs of Cirith Ungol by Sméagol/Gollum
50. "Foolish! Silly!' he hissed. 'Make haste!'"
.......pg 402 The Stairs of Cirith Ungol by Sméagol/Gollum
51. "Very foolish, very dangerous--if poor Sméagol wasn't sneaking about to watch.'"
.......pg 412 The Stairs of Cirith Ungol by Sméagol/Gollum
52. "You fool,' snarled Shagrat. 'You've been talking very clever...'"
.......pg 444 The Choices of Master Samwise by Shagrat
53. "You fool, he isn't dead, and your heart knew it.'"
.......pg 444 The Choices of Master Samwise by Sam
54. "...you must pardon my foolishness.' 'I do,' said Pippin. 'Though you are not far wrong.'"
.......pg 40 Minas Tirith by Beregond and Pippin
55. "Counsels may be found that are neither the webs of wizards nor the haste of fools.'"
.......pg 105 The Siege of Gondor by Denethor
56. "... most surely not for any argument would he have set this thing at a hazard beyond all but a fool's hope...'"
.......pg 105 The Siege of Gondor by Denethor
57. "There never was much hope,' he answered. 'Just a fool's hope, as I have been told.'"
.......pg 107 The Siege of Gondor by Gandalf
58. "Maybe even your foolishness helped, my lad.'"
.......pg 107 The Siege of Gondor by Gandalf
59. "The fool's hope has failed.'"
.......pg 118 The Siege of Gondor by Denethor
60. "Follow whom you will, even the Grey Fool, though his hope has failed.'"
.......pg 118 The Siege of Gondor by Denethor
61. "Why do the fools fly?'"
.......pg 120 The Siege of Gondor by Denethor
62. "...I want to see Gandalf very much indeed. But he is no fool...'"
.......pg 120 The Siege of Gondor by Pippin
63. "Old fool!' he said to Gandalf. 'Old fool! This is my hour.'"
.......pg 125 The Siege of Gondor by the Witch-king
64. "Hinder me? Thou fool. No living man may hinder me!'"
.......pg 141 The Battle of the Pelennor Fields by the Witch-king
65. "Nay, I have seen more than thou knowest, Grey Fool.'"
.......pg 157 The Pyre of Denethor by Denethor
66. "...thou shalt see what comes to him who sets his foolish webs before the feet of Sauron the Great.'"
.......pg 203 The Black Gate Opens by The Messenger/The Mouth of Sauron
67. "Don't be a fool, Sam Gamgee,' came an answer in his own voice."
.......pg 266 Mount Doom by Sam
68. "You are the fool, going on hoping and toiling.'"
.......pg 266 Mount Doom by Sam
69. "... you Shirriffs look a lot of Tom-fools.'"
.......pg 346 The Scouring of the Shire by Sam
70. "I told Sharkey it was no good trusting those little fools.'"
.......pg 350 The Scouring of the Shire by a random Ruffian
71. "You are a ruffian and a fool.'"
.......pg 351 The Scouring of the Shire by Pippin
72. "Miserable fool, but I am sorry for him.'"
.......pg 352 The Scouring of the Shire by Frodo
73. "He has been a wicked fool, but he's caught now.'"
.......pg 352 The Scouring of the Shire by Frodo
74. "...all of them except perhaps one or two rascals, and a few fools that want to be important...'"
.......pg 353 The Scouring of the Shire by Merry
75. "He knew too little of hobbits to understand his peril. Foolishly he decided to fight.'"
.......pg 358 The Scouring of the Shire by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding the Ruffian Leader
76. "Only that fool Ted was pleased by that...'"
.......pg 361 The Scouring of the Shire by Farmer Cotton
77. "I don't believe that fool of a Pimple's behind all this.'"
.......pg 361 The Scouring of the Shire by Farmer Cotton
78. "Don't waste any more words on the fool, Sam!'"
.......pg 366 The Scouring of the Shire by Frodo
79. "...if they're such fools, I will get ahead of them and teach them a lesson.'"
.......pg 368 The Scouring of the Shire by Sharkey/Saruman


The Hobbit
1. "Bilbo, you were a fool; you walked right in and put your foot in it."
.......pg 30 An Unexpected Party by Bilbo
2. "Don't be a fool, Bilbo Baggins!" he said to himself, "thinking of dragons and all that outlandish nonsense at your age!"
.......pg 40 Roast Mutton by Bilbo
3. "You're a fat fool, William..."
.......pg 48 Roast Mutton by Bert
4. "...Thorin and his friends think them foolish (which is a very foolish thing to think)"
.......pg 59 A Short Rest by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding the Elves
5. "Don't be a fool Mr. Baggins if you can help it..."
.......pg 118 Queer Lodgings by Gandalf
6. "The dwarves were inclined to grumble at this, but the wizard told them they were fools."
.......pg 136 Queer Lodgings by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding the Dwarves
7. "Some of the more foolish ran out of the hut as if they expected the Mountain to go golden in the night..."
.......pg 188 A Warm Welcome by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding Lake-town residents
8. "Dear me, what a fool I was and am!"
.......pg 205 Inside Information by Bilbo
9. "Staggering!" exclaimed Bilbo aloud, but what he thought inside was: "Old fool!"
.......pg 216 Inside Information by Bilbo
10. "Never laugh at live dragons, Bilbo you fool!"
.......pg 217 Inside Information by Bilbo
11. "The dragon is coming or I am a fool!"
.......pg 235 Fire and Water by Grim-voiced fellow/Bard
12. "... not the most foolish doubted that the prophecies had gone rather wrong."
.......pg 235 Fire and Water by the Narrator/J.R.R. Tolkien regarding Lake-town residents
13. "Why waste words and wrath on those unhappy creatures?"
.......pg 240 Fire and Water by Bard
14. "Such a fool deserves to starve"
.......pg 256 A Thief in the Night by Bard
15. "Fools!" laughed Bard, "to come thus beneath the Mountain's..."
.......pg 264 The Cloud Bursts by Bard
16. "You are a fool, Bilbo Baggins, and you made a great mess of that business with the stone..."
.......pg 273 The Return Journey by Bilbo


Which chapters weren't foolish at all?

The Fellowship of the Ring
Three is Company
A Short Cut to Mushrooms
The Old Forest
Fog on the Barrow-Downs
A Knife in the Dark
Many Meetings
The Ring Goes South
The Mirror of Galadriel
Farewell to Lórien
The Great River

The Two Towers
The Departure of Boromir
Helm's Deep
The Taming of Sméagol
The Passage of the Marshes
The Forbidden Pool
Journey to the Cross-Roads
Shelob's Lair

The Return of the King
The Passing of the Grey Company
The Muster of Rohan
The Ride of the Rohirrim
The Houses of Healing
The Last Debate
The Tower of Cirith Ungol
The Land of Shadow
The Field of Cormallen
The Steward and the King
Many Partings
Homeward Bound
The Grey Havens


The Hobbit
Over Hill and Under Hill
Riddles in the Dark
Out of the Frying-Pan into the Fire
Flies and Spiders
Barrels Out of Bond
A Warm Welcome
On the Doorstep
Not at Home
The Gathering of the CloudsThe Last Stage




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grammaboodawg
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Apr 1 2016, 2:47pm

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I agreed to a small departmental gathering... an ice cream social!! :D But it turned into a building-wide to-do with speeches and all... including an impromptu one from me. *sigh* I remember saying something about enjoying my nearly 28 years there and wishing every well and shared hopes they'd never run out of ketsup ;) Probably not one of my best moments.




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dernwyn
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Apr 3 2016, 1:36pm

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Oh my! I do hope you told them that you liked half of them half as well as they deserved...Wink

Now, are you ready for your next adventure? Smile


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grammaboodawg
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Apr 3 2016, 7:40pm

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Let's look at some descriptions of places in Middle-earth. Here's a look at Isengard... for a moment of Tolkien-zen.

From The Road to Isengard: The Two Towers


... "...the highway... ...was broad and hard, and well-tended... ...the long arm of the mountains rising on their left. They had passed into Nan Curunír, the Wizard's Vale. That was a sheltered valley open only to the South. Once it had been fair and green, and through it the Isen flowed, already deep and strong before it found the plains...


... ...After they had ridden for some miles, the highway became a wide street, paved with great flat stones, squared and laid with skill; no blade of grass was seen in any joint. Deep gutters, filled with trickling water, ran down on either side...


... ...Beneath the mountain's arm within the Wizard's Vale through years uncounted had stood that ancient place that Men called Isengard. Partly it was shaped in the making of the mountains, but mighty works the Men of Westernesse had wrought there of old; and Saruman had dwelt there long and had not been idle...
... ...A great ring-wall of stone, like towering cliffs, stood out from the shelter of the mountain-side, from which it ran and then returned again. One entrance only was there made in it, a great arch delved in the southern wall. Here through the black rock a long tunnel had been hewn, close at either end with might doors of iron. They were so wrought and poised upon their huge hinges, posts of steel driven into the living stone, that when unbarred they could be moved with a light thrust of the arms, noiselessly. One who passed in and came at length out of the echoing tunnel, beheld a plain, a great circle, somewhat hollowed like a vast shallow bowl: a mile it measured from rim to rim. Once it had been green and filled with avenues, and groves of fruitful trees, watered by streams that flowed from the mountains to a lake...
... ...To the centre all the roads... ...There stood a tower of marvellous shape. It was fashioned by the builders of old, who smoothed the Ring of Isengard, and yet it seemed a thing not made by the craft of Men, but riven from the bones of the earth in the ancient torment of the hills. A peak and isle of rock it was, black and gleaming hard: four mighty piers of many-sided stone were welded into one, but near the summit they opened into gaping horns, their pinnacles sharp as the points of spears, keen-edged as knives. Between them was a narrow space, and there upon a floor of polished stone, written with strange signs, a man might stand five hundred feet above the plain. This was Orthanc... ...the name of which had (by design or chance) a twofold meaning; for in the Elvish speech orthanc signifies Mount Fang, but in the language of the Mark of old the Cunning Mind.
... A strong place and wonderful was Isengard, and long it had been beautiful; and there great lords had dwelt, the wardens of Gondor upon the West, and wise men that watched the stars."





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Kim
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Apr 3 2016, 8:05pm

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I know you've been looking forward to this for a long time, I hope you get to enjoy putting all of your plans in motion now that you have the time! Smile

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