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HOBBITFAN13
Lorien
Feb 6 2016, 5:56pm
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BOFA EE better or worse?
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After recently watching the EE for BOFA finally, I have mixed opinions on it for not having character moments but instead more of the battle. Love the war chariot though. But I think the EE made the movie worse in some aspects and better in other aspects.
Overall. Do you think that the BOFA EE made the movie better or worse?
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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Feb 6 2016, 6:21pm
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It was already good but now it is even better.
I have mixed opinions on it for not having character moments but instead more of the battle. We did get a lot of new character moments in the EE, and some of them are in the battle. We have Bilbo and Bofur, Thorin and Balin, Bifur, Bofur and Bombur when Bifur is losing his axe, Fili, Kili, Dwalin and Balin on the chariot, Radagast giving his staff to Gandalf, Dain and Thranduil in the battle( both dwarves vs elves and the real battle), Nori, Ori and Bofur throwing an axe, Galadriel in Dol Guldur. There are many new character moments in the EE.
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dormouse
Half-elven
Feb 6 2016, 6:53pm
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Emphatically better in all respects....
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Though I liked it very much in its first version.
And I see plenty of character moments in it, both apart from the battle and while it's happening.
For still there are so many things
that I have never seen:
in every wood and every spring
there is a different green. . .
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LSF
Gondor
Feb 6 2016, 6:57pm
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Character, story, pacing, action...
While I would've liked more with the Company dwarves who are not Thorin/Fili/Kili, what was added makes the movie better.
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LSF
Gondor
Feb 6 2016, 6:59pm
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I'm wondering where this idea that character moments can't happen, or don't really count as character moments, during action parts comes from.
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TheOnlyOneAroundWithAnySense
Rohan
Feb 6 2016, 7:02pm
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And, as others have said, much of the added battle scenes *are* character moments. Even when they are not directly (ala the new beginning of the Battle), the additions add weight - and impact all of the characters.
Bilbo: These are dark days.
Bofur: Dark days indeed.
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OldestDaughter
Rohan
Feb 6 2016, 7:09pm
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Much better.
"Keen, heart-piercing was her song as the song of the lark that rises from the gates of night and pours its voice among the dying stars, seeing the sun behind the walls of the world; and the song of Lúthien released the bonds of winter, and the frozen waters spoke, and flowers sprang from the cold earth where her feet had passed."
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Milieuterrien
Rohan
Feb 6 2016, 7:41pm
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Don't you count Legolas suspended at a bat and killing eighty orcs
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as a 'character moment' ?
Just to ask. 
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MyWeeLadGimli
Lorien
Feb 6 2016, 11:03pm
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Most of the new additions helped the movie. The only thing I felt detracted was how much more graphic the violence was. It felt jarring and disconnected from the more restrained violence in the other films.
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Nieriel
Rivendell
Feb 6 2016, 11:22pm
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"Our loves are not given, but only lent." Rudyard Kipling
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KingTurgon
Rohan
Feb 7 2016, 3:43am
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Glad to see you are still around!
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dormouse
Half-elven
Feb 7 2016, 8:56am
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'Tis very difficult to get rid of mice!
For still there are so many things
that I have never seen:
in every wood and every spring
there is a different green. . .
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Noria
Gondor
Feb 7 2016, 2:15pm
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As I've said before, the EE is the version that, in my opinion, we should have seen in the theatre.
I agree that there can be and are character moments in action and battle sequences.
I could have done without Alfrid's death though - him just disappearing worked for me.
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bumbaroo_1
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Feb 9 2016, 6:16pm
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Are the extended editions of the films available on DVD?
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Elessar
Valinor
Feb 10 2016, 2:36pm
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I think things are paced and feel more fleshed out in the EE as compared to the TE.
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Eruonen
Half-elven
Feb 11 2016, 4:33am
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For me, I think it helped even out the film and improved the viewing experience.
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tonyg
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Feb 15 2016, 9:06pm
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Improved the things. I would prefer some of the scenes in a different way, but anyway.
After all, I was waiting six months to see how the dwarves say goodbye to the heirs of Durin and also to see the coronation.
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QuiteALittleFellow
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Feb 23 2016, 6:01am
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I still have a lot of issues with the film in general (wereworms, 'good' armies being too SMALL in my view, just for some examples), BUT I think the added things were good. It improved things overall, though I'd still wish they added more character moments, some things they filmed, even show in the appendices, but aren't in the final film.
I wish they had Beorn defending Thorin, carrying him off, for example, and Beorn was given more to do in general. I am thankful there wasn't more Tauriel/Kili, but I wish Fili and Kili had some more moments between each other, especially Fili whose death I still feel was so quick, that there was no time to really take it in whereas Kili gets a slow motion death, only due to the romantic angle.
That's one rant, but I think all the EE's improved the films in general, and this is no exception.
"You're only quite a little fellow, in a wide world after all."
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