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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 25 2016, 9:59pm
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Do you know your “There and Back Again”?
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Which word(s) are mentioned in the book The Hobbit
Check ONLY the words found in The Hobbit
(Some or maybe all?) 
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Jan 25 2016, 11:01pm
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I sense some tricksiness afoot:
- Gandalf, but not Gandalf the Grey.
- Dain, but not Dáin Ironfoot
From memory:
- Anduin - No
- The Shire - No
- Sauron - No
- Thorin Oakenshield - Yes
- Bree - No
- Gwaihir - No
- Bagshot Row - No
- Gandalf the Grey - No
- Dorwinion - Yes
- Imladris - No
- Half-elven - Yes
- Shirriff - No
- Dáin Ironfoot - No
- Orc - Yes
- Esgaroth - Yes
- Dol Guldur - No
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 25 2016, 11:56pm
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And that's fantastic from memory!
But I see two possible misses we'll delve into later. I say "possible" as I don't have an ebook that apparently does individual word searches -
Cheat, foul, unfair 
But have done my dangdest using Foster's guide and some "light" scrolling. 
(This post was edited by Bracegirdle on Jan 25 2016, 11:59pm)
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 26 2016, 12:43am
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I suspect that the misses might be 'Anduin' and 'Bagshot Row', but I don't remember those names being in the book.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 26 2016, 3:58am
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Nope you cope, don't mope. . .
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Your memory is spot-on for 'Anduin' and 'Bagshot Row'. . . 
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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Jan 26 2016, 1:52pm
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Thorin Oakenshield
Dáin Ironfoot
Gandalf ( but I don't think "the Grey" was in the hobbit)
Esgaroth ( I think )
The Shire ( I think)
Orc ( I think it is mentioned once or twice in the book)
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 26 2016, 3:21pm
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I think I have spotted a mistake I made. I do not believe that Elrond is referred to as 'Half-elven' until The Fellowship of the Ring after Frodo regains his senses in Rivendell. If I did make a second mistake, I cannot spot it. You will just have to point it out.
(This post was edited by Otaku-sempai on Jan 26 2016, 3:34pm)
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 26 2016, 6:34pm
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Thorin Oakenshield Yes, mentioned in The Hobbit
Dáin Ironfoot No, not mentioned, Dain only
Gandalf ( but I don't think "the Grey" was in the hobbit) Correct, no "Gandalf the Grey"
Esgaroth ( I think ) Yes, mentioned in The Hobbit
The Shire ( I think) No, not mentioned
Orc ( I think it is mentioned once or twice in the book) No, not mentioned
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 26 2016, 7:00pm
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Right, no ‘Half-elven’ until FotR.
I believe you’ve got them all but one.
My list has only three that ARE mentioned in The Hobbit.
Thorin Oakenshield, Dorwinion, & Esgaroth.
And the one (I believe) you have missed is “Orc”.
After thinking searching, thinking searching there are
lots and lots of Goblins, but of Orcs, none at all (that I can find).
If there is an ‘Orc’ in there it must be in some obtuse place and I hope someone will point it out. . . . 
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Smaug the iron
Gondor
Jan 26 2016, 7:09pm
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Thorin Oakenshield Yes, mentioned in The Hobbit ( probably the easiest one)
Dáin Ironfoot No, not mentioned, Dain only ( all right only Dain is mentioned)
Gandalf ( but I don't think "the Grey" was in the hobbit) Correct, no "Gandalf the Grey" ( I did at least notice this one)
Esgaroth ( I think ) Yes, mentioned in The Hobbit
The Shire ( I think) No, not mentioned
Orc ( I think it is mentioned once or twice in the book) No, not mentioned ( I will coract you and say it is mentioned by Gandalf at the edge of Mirkwood) "Before you could get round Mirkwood in the North you would be right among the slopes of the Grey Mountains, and they are simply stiff with goblins, hobgoblins and orcs of the worst description."
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Beorn's Bees
Lorien
Jan 26 2016, 7:16pm
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I'm pretty sure "Orc" is mentioned on the way to Beorn's house.
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But I might be wrong.
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sador
Half-elven
Jan 26 2016, 7:38pm
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But in neither case with a capital O.
Once at the end of Riddles in the Dark, when the mountain orcs are mentioned as the largest goblins, who can go in the tunnels at a great speed; and another time at the end of Queer Lodgings, when Gandalf says the Grey Mountains are infested with goblins, hobgoblins and orcs.
I did miss one in your quiz - I remembered Elrond's ancestry being discussed, but indeed the term half-elven is never used.
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 26 2016, 8:01pm
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You're going to be goblin your own words!
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"Before you could get around Mirkwood in the North you would be right among the slopes of the Grey Mountains, and they are simply stiff with goblins, hobgoblins, and orcs of the worst description." And then, of course, there is Thorin's sword Orcrist.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 26 2016, 11:02pm
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you are only incorrect in the location. (Or are we missing another Orc?)
Looks like it was after leaving Beorn's house as Gandalf was leaving the company on some important business.
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Otaku-sempai
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Jan 26 2016, 11:23pm
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To miss only one on your first go I think makes you a Winner (far's I know?). Ta-da Thanks sador!!
Well it turns out that I only missed one as well. And I posted before sador. So, it would seem to be a tie (to be generous).
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 26 2016, 11:34pm
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But I never was 100% sure of “Orc”  , and what better place to find out than right by-gol-dang-dernyo here!
So it seems we end up with a grand total of four words from the list that WERE mentioned in The Hobbit:
Dorwinion
Thorin Oakenshield
Esgaroth
Orc
And twelve that were not.
Thanks for hanging in there Otaku . . . You’re alright! I don’t care what they say . . .
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 26 2016, 11:45pm
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Opps, crossed in the ether . ..
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After a double-check
Your right of course. You only missed “Half-elven” on your first go.
Guess I lost track after our conversations.
So, you and sador seem to be the winners. And YOU would be First-winner it seems. x 5
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Jan 26 2016, 11:53pm
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Not that my ego wouldn't have survived without the official acknowledgment. 
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sador
Half-elven
Jan 27 2016, 3:20am
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If I score handsomely on such quizzes, it is only because N. E. Brigand, the Master of the Reading Room in the old times, doesn't participate.
As the song goes:
Our N. E. Brigand is a pleasant fellow,
Spot-on his questions are, and his tone is mellow.
None has ever caught him yet, for NEB, he is the master:
His book-lore immaculate, and his finds links faster.
I see he stills pops in here and there, but usually in Main and Off Topic nowadays. More is the pity.
But it's a long time since we've had such quizzes as you regularly post. Thank you very much for all of them!
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dormouse
Half-elven
Jan 27 2016, 12:18pm
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I THINK the answer's 'not many'
Just off the top of me 'ed I'd say:
The Shire
Thorin Oakenshield
Dorwinion
Esgaroth
Gandalf is mentioned, of course, but I don't think he's Grey; Dain is in the book, but without personal comments about his foot, the orcses is goblins and I don't remember the eagles having names.
And I may be completely wrong! 
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 27 2016, 2:02pm
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We finally came up with only four that were in The Hobbit:
Dorwinion
Thorin Oakenshield
Esgaroth
Orc (This one I missed too)
All the rest were not.
Right on no Gandalf the Grey, Dain Ironfoot, & Gwaihir – not in there…
I was a little surprised about The Shire too - not in there.
Cheers all over ya!
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I thank 'ee! Very kind sador. . . //
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