|
|
 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
noWizardme
Half-elven
Jan 16 2016, 4:59pm
Post #1 of 19
(802 views)
Shortcut
|
The Forbidden Ool, anyone?
|
Can't Post
|
|
Yes that's right - it's an ool. There is no P, and we hope to keep it that way. 
It's the last chapter remaining in the Book IV read-through that does not have a chapter leader to organize a discussion. It would be great to have a volunteer to lead it. he or she or they would be posting conversation starters in the week beginning 7 February.
It's quite a short chapter, and has moon-watching (or sneaky interrogation techniques), fish-poaching, hidden stone knives and moral dilemmas.
~~~~~~
The Reading Room read-through of The Two Towers Book IV has started!
Just one chapter left needing a leader: 07-Feb-16 # VI # The Forbidden Pool # Could you do it?
If you are potentially interested in leading, but not sure what leading a chapter involves, see here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=884122#884122
Links to earlier posts in this read-through:
week starts # Chapter # Chapter name # leader # URL of thread
03-Jan-16 # I # The Taming of Smeagol # noWizardme Part 1: http://goo.gl/wvyAOx 2: http://goo.gl/6ks0JV 3: http://goo.gl/l0iuEz 4: http://goo.gl/7ket5o
10-Jan-16 # II # The Passage of the Marshes # Oliphaunt Part 1: http://goo.gl/eUEV4u
A set of links to our Book III discussions can be found here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=886383#886383
A wonderful list of links to previous read-throughs is curated by our very own 'squire' here http://users.bestweb.net/...-SixthDiscussion.htm
(This post was edited by noWizardme on Jan 16 2016, 5:00pm)
|
|
|
Hamfast Gamgee
Tol Eressea
Jan 20 2016, 12:22am
Post #2 of 19
(688 views)
Shortcut
|
Seems about as popular as someone advocating gun control in a Republican primary. So, I tell you what, I will take the chapter if no-one else does!
|
|
|
oliphaunt
Lorien
Jan 20 2016, 9:11pm
Post #4 of 19
(650 views)
Shortcut
|
I was going to offer on the weekend if no-one stepped up. So hats off to you! I've been reading the chapter, and (of course) it is a great one.
|
|
|
Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 21 2016, 2:42pm
Post #5 of 19
(636 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Yes that's right - it's an ool. There is no P, and we hope to keep it that way.
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
There may be no “P” in the Forbidden “ool”, but in my younger daze I saw a Snickers bar floating in the local ool.
And did that ool clear out fast – Oh Yes . . . 
'When I was young I found out that the big toe always ends up making a hole in a sock.
So I stopped wearing socks.'
- Albert Einstein
|
|
|
Darkstone
Immortal
Jan 21 2016, 3:09pm
Post #6 of 19
(639 views)
Shortcut
|
I alunda doing these discussion with my bobos where we all kuda together by the metaphorical haraka and aiyee each other.
But again, what is the forbidden ool? Is it a macha or something? I'd really ugh to know.
******************************************
Fimbrethil, Warrior Entwife
Sez: "Why don't we terraform Earth? It's closer."
|
|
|
noWizardme
Half-elven
Jan 21 2016, 3:41pm
Post #7 of 19
(624 views)
Shortcut
|
You get to be Lifeguard (whistle enclosed) - and now the tale of our Read-through company is complete!
week starts # Chapter # Chapter name # leader
03-Jan-16 # I # The Taming of Smeagol # noWizardme
10-Jan-16 # II # The Passage of the Marshes # Oliphaunt
17-Jan-16 # III # The Black Gate Is Closed # Al Carondas
24-Jan-16 # IV # Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit # Hamfast Gamgee
31-Jan-16 # V # The Window on the West # MirielCelebel
07-Feb-16 # VI # The Forbidden Pool # Hamfast Gamgee
14-Feb-16 # VII # Journey to the Cross-roads # Mironiel
21-Feb-16 # VIII # The Stairs of Cirith Ungol # squire
28-Feb-16 # IX # Shelob's Lair # enanito
06-Mar-16 # X # The Choices of Master Samwise # Surprise Chapter Leader "End G.I. Bran"
(Easter 2016 is March 27)
~~~~~~
The Reading Room read-through of The Two Towers Book IV has started! All chapters now taken - but we'll be planning Book V soon!
week starts # Chapter # Chapter name # leader # URL of thread
03-Jan-16 # I # The Taming of Smeagol # noWizardme Part 1: http://goo.gl/wvyAOx 2: http://goo.gl/6ks0JV 3: http://goo.gl/l0iuEz 4: http://goo.gl/7ket5o
10-Jan-16 # II # The Passage of the Marshes # Oliphaunt Part 1: http://goo.gl/eUEV4u, 2:http://goo.gl/5osCOm 3: http://goo.gl/F9p2Pe
17-Jan-16 # III # The Black Gate Is Closed # Al Carondas http://goo.gl/FXwf5j
24-Jan-16 # IV # Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit # Hamfast Gamgee
31-Jan-16 # V # The Window on the West # MirielCelebel
07-Feb-16 # VI # The Forbidden Pool # Hamfast Gamgee
14-Feb-16 # VII # Journey to the Cross-roads # Mironiel
21-Feb-16 # VIII # The Stairs of Cirith Ungol # squire
28-Feb-16 # IX # Shelob's Lair # enanito
06-Mar-16 # X # The Choices of Master Samwise # Surprise Chapter Leader "End G.I. Bran"
(Easter 2016 is March 27)
A set of links to our Book III discussions can be found here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=886383#886383
A wonderful list of links to previous read-throughs is curated by our very own 'squire' here http://users.bestweb.net/...-SixthDiscussion.htm
|
|
|
CuriousG
Half-elven
Jan 21 2016, 4:15pm
Post #8 of 19
(626 views)
Shortcut
|
Well, I think it's a little weird we're covering made-up chapters and fanfic now
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
How about "Frodo and Sam Visit the Kardashians" or the chapter on "Faramir and the Wicked Horcrux"? Sheesh, Wiz is just letting this discussion spiral out of control.
But when we get to "Gandalf vs. Darth Vader vs. Yoda," I want to cover that one.
|
|
|
Darkstone
Immortal
Jan 21 2016, 4:20pm
Post #9 of 19
(619 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Dibs on "Eowyn Goes Bikini Shopping". /
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
******************************************
Fimbrethil, Warrior Entwife
Sez: "Why don't we terraform Earth? It's closer."
|
|
|
CuriousG
Half-elven
Jan 21 2016, 4:32pm
Post #10 of 19
(618 views)
Shortcut
|
|
Especially the graphic novel version. //
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
|
|
|
noWizardme
Half-elven
Jan 21 2016, 6:41pm
Post #12 of 19
(614 views)
Shortcut
|
|
I should have explained that Ool...
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
I should have explained that Ool is - or was - a game played by young mischievous hobbits from the aristocracy.
The game was quite simple - like many of the young aristocrats themselves. Each would carry around an 'ool', which was a flat stone,polished and carved, and about the size of the palm of a hobbit hand. A player would 'offer' his ool by tossing it into some spot from which it would be difficult to retrieve - into a stream, say, or into a tall tree. He would then dare his friends to go ahead and retrieve it completely unaided, the one who succeeded winning the ool.
Obscure though this game was, it was obviously known to Gandalf, since he made the perfect formal response to Pippin on hearing a stone drop in Moria (you 'll recall that he says "Ool offer, Took?") Later scribes in Gondor evidently didn't know of this sport, and so 'corrected' the text of the Red Book Of Westmarch to the "fool of a Took" wording we see today. But they did thereby create a mystery - why were Gandalf and the Balrog gone so long? It's much easier to understand once you know they were only fighting part of the time, and searching for Pippin's ool during breaks.
It 's clear that Gandalf was able to retrieve it by the way - note that after Pippin has suffered by looking into the Palantir, Gandalf comforts him by returning his prized ool straight to Pippin's hand. This was legal under the rules of ool, but a kindness: the usual rules would require Gandalf now to toss the ool somewhere amusingly inconvenient - into a sleeping Gimli's beard, perhaps - and expect Pippin to recover it. But Gandalf presumably thought Pippin had suffered enough for one night. The clear evidence for the ool's return again became garbled in later transcriptions, but was once entirely clear - the line once read "an ool, but an Honest Ool, you retain, Peregrin Took."
Now doubtless you are wondering what a 'forbidden ool' was. The game of ool was - like many dare games played by young men -deliberately designed to result in mayhem, embarrassment and risk of injury. But the early days of the game, in which any ool was considered an Honest Ool, came to a tragic end with the misadventures of young Upion Brandybuck.
The unfortunate Upion was attempting to retrieve an ool from what appeared to be merely a tree. Sadly, it had lodged in a particularly personal fork of the branches of the young entwife Fangast. Startled from her reverie about the possible benefits of crop rotations, she lashed out ....and the consequences became proverbial. You'll recall the saying Merry quoted to his friends at Isengard: "a punch from an ent-fist crumples Upion like thin tin". In a rare bit of activity after this tragedy Drogulus Took (voted President of the All-Shire Ool Federation solely because he had passed out first at the last spectacular annual dinner) introduced the concept of a "Forbidden Ool". A Forbidden Ool is one that is lodged somewhere from which it would be ungentlemanly to expect your friend to retrieve it - the Crack of Doom, or Rosie Cotton's bodice for example. Or perhaps I should say that those were meant as two different examples.
While some hard-core ool players complained that this was destroying the sport, it is probably the case that, even for foolish young hobbits with too little to do, enough is enough....
~~~~~~
The Reading Room read-through of The Two Towers Book IV has started! All chapters now taken - but we'll be planning Book V soon!
week starts # Chapter # Chapter name # leader # URL of thread
03-Jan-16 # I # The Taming of Smeagol # noWizardme Part 1: http://goo.gl/wvyAOx 2: http://goo.gl/6ks0JV 3: http://goo.gl/l0iuEz 4: http://goo.gl/7ket5o
10-Jan-16 # II # The Passage of the Marshes # Oliphaunt Part 1: http://goo.gl/eUEV4u, 2:http://goo.gl/5osCOm 3: http://goo.gl/F9p2Pe
17-Jan-16 # III # The Black Gate Is Closed # Al Carondas http://goo.gl/FXwf5j
24-Jan-16 # IV # Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit # Hamfast Gamgee
31-Jan-16 # V # The Window on the West # MirielCelebel
07-Feb-16 # VI # The Forbidden Pool # Hamfast Gamgee
14-Feb-16 # VII # Journey to the Cross-roads # Mironiel
21-Feb-16 # VIII # The Stairs of Cirith Ungol # squire
28-Feb-16 # IX # Shelob's Lair # enanito
06-Mar-16 # X # The Choices of Master Samwise # Surprise Chapter Leader "End G.I. Bran"
(Easter 2016 is March 27)
A set of links to our Book III discussions can be found here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=886383#886383
A wonderful list of links to previous read-throughs is curated by our very own 'squire' here http://users.bestweb.net/...-SixthDiscussion.htm
(This post was edited by noWizardme on Jan 21 2016, 6:42pm)
|
|
|
CuriousG
Half-elven
Jan 21 2016, 9:49pm
Post #13 of 19
(601 views)
Shortcut
|
|
OK, you sold me. Now *I* want to cover the Forbidden Ool chapter.
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
I hate it when Hamfast gets all the fun chapters, especially the naughty ones.
|
|
|
sador
Half-elven
Jan 22 2016, 4:07am
Post #14 of 19
(586 views)
Shortcut
|
You've changed forever "The Ool on the Hill" for me.
If only Bilbo did serious things like listening to the Beatles instead of wasting his time at quoits, he could have beat Gollum fair and square. The "thirty horses" chestnut was way too easy.
|
|
|
sador
Half-elven
Jan 22 2016, 7:07am
Post #15 of 19
(581 views)
Shortcut
|
Being working-class, Hamfast never had a chance to learn aristocratic games, as was shown two weeks ago when Frodo dared Sam "you can pass to me ninnyhammer, or any other name the Gaffer gave you" - he clearly did not fear being called an ool.
So don't begrudge Hamfast this chapter; after all, leading a RR discussion is a learning process. 
|
|
|
noWizardme
Half-elven
Jan 22 2016, 11:02am
Post #16 of 19
(566 views)
Shortcut
|
|
'Naturally' this must have been the true reason for the break-up of the Beatles...
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
Presumably one of them offered an ool, nobody could find it, and the song cryptically commemorates how the fatal arguments began...
~~~~~~
The Reading Room read-through of The Two Towers Book IV has started! All chapters now taken - but we'll be planning Book V soon!
week starts # Chapter # Chapter name # leader # URL of thread
03-Jan-16 # I # The Taming of Smeagol # noWizardme Part 1: http://goo.gl/wvyAOx 2: http://goo.gl/6ks0JV 3: http://goo.gl/l0iuEz 4: http://goo.gl/7ket5o
10-Jan-16 # II # The Passage of the Marshes # Oliphaunt Part 1: http://goo.gl/eUEV4u, 2:http://goo.gl/5osCOm 3: http://goo.gl/F9p2Pe
17-Jan-16 # III # The Black Gate Is Closed # Al Carondas http://goo.gl/FXwf5j
24-Jan-16 # IV # Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit # Hamfast Gamgee
31-Jan-16 # V # The Window on the West # MirielCelebel
07-Feb-16 # VI # The Forbidden Pool # Hamfast Gamgee
14-Feb-16 # VII # Journey to the Cross-roads # Mironiel
21-Feb-16 # VIII # The Stairs of Cirith Ungol # squire
28-Feb-16 # IX # Shelob's Lair # enanito
06-Mar-16 # X # The Choices of Master Samwise # Surprise Chapter Leader "End G.I. Bran"
(Easter 2016 is March 27)
A set of links to our Book III discussions can be found here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=886383#886383
A wonderful list of links to previous read-throughs is curated by our very own 'squire' here http://users.bestweb.net/...-SixthDiscussion.htm
|
|
|
Bracegirdle
Valinor
Jan 22 2016, 1:50pm
Post #17 of 19
(568 views)
Shortcut
|
I had completely forgotten the ancient and mostly forgotten game of "Ool", and naturally, as is my wont, reverted to my ongoing dread of suspecting “P” in the ool, or God forbid! a floating chocolate bar.
'When I was young I found out that the big toe always ends up making a hole in a sock.
So I stopped wearing socks.'
- Albert Einstein
|
|
|
Darkstone
Immortal
Jan 22 2016, 2:02pm
Post #18 of 19
(566 views)
Shortcut
|
|
"We got trouble, my friends...
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
"Right here in Hobbit City.
All thanks to a Took,
And that stands for Fool,
And that rhymes with Ool!."
(And that's how Gandalf started the Shire's Tween Marching Band!)
******************************************
Fimbrethil, Warrior Entwife
Sez: "Why don't we terraform Earth? It's closer."
|
|
|
noWizardme
Half-elven
Jan 22 2016, 5:23pm
Post #19 of 19
(561 views)
Shortcut
|
|
I'd have thought that mist Gaffers would have known and dreaded the cry of "Fly Your Ools!"
[In reply to]
|
Can't Post
|
|
You've just caught some young rascal grubbing about suspiciously in your tater patch. You grab him by the ear to drag him off to see his parents or the Bounders, and he shouts "Fly Your Ools!". It's the call for all players to come to the aid of a captured party. Suddenly the poor gaffer is being pelted with small round stones...
'Tis hard, making an honest living....
~~~~~~
The Reading Room read-through of The Two Towers Book IV has started! All chapters now taken - but we'll be planning Book V soon!
week starts # Chapter # Chapter name # leader # URL of thread
03-Jan-16 # I # The Taming of Smeagol # noWizardme Part 1: http://goo.gl/wvyAOx 2: http://goo.gl/6ks0JV 3: http://goo.gl/l0iuEz 4: http://goo.gl/7ket5o
10-Jan-16 # II # The Passage of the Marshes # Oliphaunt Part 1: http://goo.gl/eUEV4u, 2:http://goo.gl/5osCOm 3: http://goo.gl/F9p2Pe
17-Jan-16 # III # The Black Gate Is Closed # Al Carondas http://goo.gl/FXwf5j
24-Jan-16 # IV # Of Herbs and Stewed Rabbit # Hamfast Gamgee
31-Jan-16 # V # The Window on the West # MirielCelebel
07-Feb-16 # VI # The Forbidden Pool # Hamfast Gamgee
14-Feb-16 # VII # Journey to the Cross-roads # Mironiel
21-Feb-16 # VIII # The Stairs of Cirith Ungol # squire
28-Feb-16 # IX # Shelob's Lair # enanito
06-Mar-16 # X # The Choices of Master Samwise # Surprise Chapter Leader "End G.I. Bran"
(Easter 2016 is March 27)
A set of links to our Book III discussions can be found here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=886383#886383
A wonderful list of links to previous read-throughs is curated by our very own 'squire' here http://users.bestweb.net/...-SixthDiscussion.htm
|
|
|
|
|
